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Maxine Waters Warns ‘Alt-Right Haters’: ‘If You Come For Me, I’m Coming For You’ – HuffPost

Rep. Maxine Waters delivered a mic-dropping speech at the Black Girls Rock! award show on Tuesday night, thanking her supporters and sternly reminding her critics that she is a strong black woman who will not be intimidated.

Waters, who was recognized as the honoree for the shows social humanitarian award, began her speech by underscoring the importance of safe spaces like Black Girls Rock!, which celebrates the beauty and magic of black sisterhood, and reiterated why representation matters.

For much too long, black girls have not reached their full potential but now things are changing, she said, going on to credit women including TV mastermind Shonda Rhimes, director Ava Duvernay, and astronaut Mae Jamieson for inspiring countless women. All of these fabulous women who are inspiring so many young girls and showing them that they too can be successful, they are certainly examples of what is possible, she said.

Waters then expressed gratitude towards the black women who have showered her with support in her efforts to call out President Donald Trump and his wrongdoings.

In recent months, Waters has consistently called for Trumps impeachment, citing his temperament, lack of experience and embrace of racismas reasons why he is unfit to lead. This has made her a target for attacks from right-wing politicians and white supremacist supporters.

However, countless women of color have rallied around Waters, including activist Brittany Packnett, who started the viral #BlackWomenAtWork hashtag in March to call out the disrespectful ways public figures, like former Fox News employee Bill OReilly, have treated Waters.

I know that if it was not for the love and respect shown to me by black women, those right wing, ultra conservative, alt-right haters would have me believe Im too black, Im too confrontational, Im too tough and Im too disrespectful to them but I know I am simply a strong black woman, Waters said.

We have power, we have influence, we can do things that others have told us we cant do, she added, before sending a stern warning to critics. If you come for me, Im coming for you.

Waters, who said she is grateful for the millennials who have openly embraced and supported her take on Trump, didnt leave the stage without reminding the audience of the power of speaking out and taking action.

Whether its the president of the United States of America or any of his cabinet members, we will say to them, we will resist you, she said. We will not allow you to damage this country in the way youre doing.

We will not allow you to take us backwards, she added. Not only will we resist you, we will impeach you!

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Analysis: Trump has no intention of denouncing the alt-right; he had every intention of escalating his war with the … – The Denver Post

President Donald Trump stepped on stage in Phoenix on Tuesday night with something clearly eating at him. Minutes into his style rally, we learned what: It wasnt the white supremacists and KKK and neo-Nazis who threw the nation into chaos and allegedly killed a woman in Virginia last week thats bugging him. Or the intractable 16-year war in Afghanistan that he just announced hes revving up again.

Its the media.

Trump spent nearly a third if not more- of his 90-minute rally rehashing his public remarks in the wake of Charlottesville, Virginia, and complaining that he was widely criticized for them. In fact, about the only time he mentioned the racial tensions and violence stirred up last week was in the context of defending himself.

The president was so frustrated with media coverage of him, he printed out copies of some of the remarks he gave in the wake of the violence. He read them aloud to the crowd, pausing to express total disbelief that the tone of coverage wasnt more positive.

I love the people in our country the people. All of the people, he said at one point, waving his remarks around. It says: I love all of the people of the country. I didnt say I love you because youre black, or I love you because youre white, or I love you because youre from Japan or youre from China or youre from Kenya or youre from Scotland or Sweden. I love all the people of our country. By the way folks, this is my exact words. I love all of the people of our country.

. . . And then they say: Is he a racist!

Clearly, Trumps lashing out against Charlottesville coverage was premeditated. And the fact that the media, of all things, was the dominant theme of his first trip back to Arizona since winning the state by more than three points underscores two truisms about Trump:

1. He cares about the coverage he receives. A lot.

2. He blames the media for nearly all of his problems as president.

Actually, Trump didnt just blame the media for HIS problems on Tuesday. After one of the worst weeks of his tumutlous, halting presidency, he stretched that attack line and blamed the media for the NATIONS problems.

In one speech he:

Accused the media of turning a blind eye to gang violence

Accused the media of trying to take away our history and heritage (re: Confederate statues states and cities are taking down after Charlottesville).

Accused the media of giving platform to hate groups (The only people giving the platform to these hate groups is the media itself.)

Called journalists sick people

Said this: You would think they want to make our country great again. And I honestly believe they dont.

And said the media is the source of division in our country.

If you want to discover the source of our division in the country, look no further than the fake news and the crooked media, which would rather get ratings and clicks than tell the truth, he said.

What Trump failed to mention (another Trump truism: He leaves out context and facts when it suits him) is that the country isnt divided over the medias coverage of his remarks.

Its divided over the white supremacists who showed up in Charlottesville to prevent the tearing down of a Confederate statue and got violent. And its not divided over how the president responded. A majority of Americans, 56 percent, dont approve of the president equating these people with counterprotesters, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Nor do key members of Trumps own party approve of the way he handled it. The president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful, Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said after Trumps press conference where he backed off denouncing white supremacists.

I do believe that he messed up in his comments Tuesday, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said at a CNN town hall on Monday. When it sounded like moral equivalency, or at the very least, moral ambiguity, when we need extreme moral clarity.

And white supremacists DO feel emboldened by the president.

Heres one of them, Richard Spencer, chiming in during Trumps tirade on the media:

Trump has never denounced the Alt-Right. Nor will he, Spencer tweeted.

Trump went to Phoenix with other chips on his shoulder, too. He didnt mention them by name, but he made a big show of hinting at his unhappiness with Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, R, for writing a book equating the Republican Partys relationship with Trump to a pact with the devil, and with Sen. John McCain, R, for casting a surprise no vote that sunk Republicans health-care bill.

One vote! Speak to your senator. Speak to your senator, Trump said, also making a big show of the fact that he was following advice not to call out Flake and McCain by names.

He called on Senate Republicans, again, to just get rid of the filibuster so they can pass legislation with 51 votes instead of 60. (Republicans hold 52 out of 100 seats in the Senate, which means the Senate is a major hurdle to Republicans agenda.)

But all of that came second, in Trumps worldview, to the coverage he received after Charlottesville. That, of course, is likely to earn him more criticism and negative coverage. Its likely Trump wont be able to let that go, either.

And Trumps all-out war against the media continues

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The man who organized the Charlottesville rally is in hiding and too toxic for the alt-right – Washington Post

Jason Kessler, an organizer for the Unite the Right Rally, was interrupted by counterprotesters on Aug. 13 as he tried to give a news conference. (Elyse Samuels,Whitney Leaming/The Washington Post)

On the day after a white nationalist rally rocked Charlottesville,Jason Kessler stood behind a bank of microphonesand introduced himself as the organizer of the Unite the Right protest that had sparked the violence in the city.

Screams and boos drowned out Kesslers voice as he tried to addressthe deadlyunrest that had engulfed the Aug. 12 rally. The news conference was ultimately shut down; police officers, whom Kessler accused of not doing enough to stop theviolence, rushed him to safety as angry counterprotesters chased himaway.

Now, Kessler is scorned not only by those who screamed at him outside Charlottesville City Hall on the day after the death of counterprotester Heather Heyer.

Far-rightfigures have since distanced themselves from Kessler, as well, an indication that his fairly new allegiance with the loosely organized alt-right abruptly endedafter a broadside against Heyer was tweeted from Kesslers account nearly a week after she died.

[Watch: Charlottesville counterprotesters shut down a white nationalists news conference]

Kessler, meanwhile, seemsto have disappeared from public view.

Im not talking to reporters right now, he said Monday when reached by The Washington Post, before hanging up.

His Twitter account appears to have been deleted. His blogand that ofUnity and Security for America, a conservative group he founded, are also gone; so is that groupsFacebook page.

Last week,Kessler told Fox Newsthat he was in hiding because he was hit with a stream of death threats after the bloodshed in Charlottesville.

Condemnation poured in over the weekend after Kesslers account tweetedinflammatory remarks about Heyer, the 32-year-old woman who was killed when a car allegedly driven by a Nazi sympathizer plowed into a group of counterprotesters.The disavowals suggested that the alt-right, a movement that blossomed on social media and the Internet, may besplintering online after the disaster in Charlottesville.

[The road to hate: For six young men, Charlottesville is only the beginning]

Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time, read the tweet, which linked to a Daily Stormer article that disparaged Heyer.

Richard Spencer,a leader of the alt-right, which seeks a whites-only state, slammed Kessler, saying attacking Heyerwasmorally dubious and beyond reckless.

Its just the exact wrong thing that anyone should be saying at this point, from a moral perspective and from a strategic perspective, Spencer told The Post on Monday. This woman did nothing wrong. She might very well have disagreed with the rally, but she did absolutely nothing wrong.

Spencer added: I oppose communism as much as anyone, but historical payback is ridiculous. I dont know what he was thinking.

On Twitter, Spencer urged othersto stop associating with Kessler.

It was a sentiment shared by otherswho took to social media to slam the Unite the Right organizer.

Assuming this is a real tweet and his account was not hacked, I will no longer attend or cover events put on by Jason Kessler. Very gross,tweetedJames Allsup, a budding alt-right figure who resigned as head of Washington State Universitys student GOP group after participating in the Charlottesville rally.

Tim Gionet, another prominent alt-right figure who is known online as Baked Alaska,said that insulting Heyer is terribly wrong and vile,tweeting:We should not rejoice at the people who died in Charlottesville just because we disagree with them.

Before going underground, Kessler acknowledged that the tweet sent from his account was offensive, though he did not say that he had written it.

I repudiate the heinous tweet that was sent from my account last night. I have been under a crushing amount of stress & death threats, Kessler wrote Saturday on social media,according to the Los Angeles Times. Im taking ambien, xanax and I had been drinking last night. I sometimes wake up having done strange things I dont remember.

[Lets party like its 1933: Inside the alt-right world of Richard Spencer]

The Times reported that a self-proclaimed hacker and Internet trollsaid on the social media service Gab that he had hacked Kesslers Twitter account.The Post has notconfirmed the veracity of that claim.

The alt-right movement grew through blogs, online message boards and social media accountscreated by followers who believe that white identity is under attack by multiculturalism and political correctness,according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Spencer reserves the National Press Club in Washington at least twice a year for a gathering of alt-right followers, noted the SPLC, whichdescribesthe alt-rights self-proclaimed leader as a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old, a kind of professional racist in khakis.

Kessler, like Spencer, attended the University of Virginia. According to the SPLC, he organized the Unite the Right rallyafter Spencer made headlines in May by leading a torch-bearing eventin Charlottesville.

The SPLC describedKessler as a newcomer to the white nationalist scene.Known in Charlottesville as a local conservative blogger, hepublished an articleon Nov. 24 calling the citys vice mayor, Wes Bellamy, a blatant black supremacist and led anunsuccessful petitiontoremove Bellamy from office.Kessler said he hadunearthed offensive and homophobic tweets written several years ago byBellamy.

[Charlottesville violence prompts black U-Va. athletes to reflect on their experience]

Hefounded the nonprofit Unity and Security for America, whichcalls fordefending Western Civilization. He also sought to establish himself as the lone dissenter in the capital of the resistance that is Charlottesville,as declared by the citys mayorshortly after President Trumps inauguration.

Kessler found an ally in U.S. Senate candidate Corey A. Stewart, a darling of the alt-right who made several public appearances with the local blogger. In February, Stewart, then a GOP gubernatorial candidate in Virginia, attended Kesslersnews conferenceabout an effort tooust Bellamy from office.

A few days ahead of the Charlottesville rally, Kesslertold The Post, The genesis of this entire event is this Robert E. Lee statue that the city is trying to move, which is symbolic of a lot of other issues that deal with the tearing down of white peoples history and our demographic replacement.

White nationalists were met by counterprotesters in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, leading Gov. Terry McAuliffe to declare a state emergency. A car plowed into crowds, killing one person and injuring 19 others. (Zoeann Murphy/The Washington Post)

But shortly after the rally turned violent, Kessler came under scrutiny from right-wing websites. Rumors about his political leanings and loyalty to far-right ideologies have since circulated online.

[A neo-Nazis rage-fueled journey to Charlottesville]

Some, including DC Whispers, pointed to suspicions that Kessler was involved in the Occupy movement and was a supporter of President Barack Obama. The website also said Kessler did not become a white nationalist until after Trump was elected.

Who is this guy? Is this a mistake or is he indeed a liberal gone racist? Is he a plant and this whole thing a set up to pit Americans against each other? Lots of questions and very, very few answers, wrote a bloggerfor Rightwing News.

Kesslertold Snopesthat he supported and voted for Obama in 2008 but became disenchantedwiththe administration andDemocrats. He said that hehad attended an Occupy rallyin Charlottesville in 2011 but found that his views didnt align with those of the protesters.

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch, Kessler tweeted in November that many alt-right followers used to be liberals. He also said that he voted for Trump in the primary and general elections.I like Trump more than I did Obama, he wrote on Nov. 6. My Trump enthusiasm is through the roof. I like people who push the edge.

Spencer said that he met Kessler briefly several months ago. Kessler really jumped on the bandwagon after the success of the Charlottesville torch rally in May, Spencer said.

He also criticized Kesslers handling of the Unite the Right rally. Law enforcement officers canceledthe event afterthe clash between rally attendees and counterprotesters.Hes not a very good organizer. Its haphazard, Spencer said. I was skeptical of the whole thing. It took on a life of its own.

Nevertheless, Spencer attended the rally. Aflierlisted him as one of the featured speakers, along withKessler, Gionet (a.k.a. Baked Alaska) and Michael Hill, president of the Southern pro-secession group League of the South. Spencertold The Post days before the eventthat he was concerned about violence, but he said he worried it would come from antifascists, or antifa, activists.

In terms of organization maybe theres some incompetence, Spencer said Monday of Unite the Right. Everyone has to make mistakes, and we learn from them.But disparaging Heyer and rejoicing in her death should not be condoned,he said.

Eli Mosley, an organizer for the white separatist group Identity Evropa, said in aTwitter threadabout Kessler that in the future, event organizers will face extreme vetting like never before to ensure this doesnt happen.How, exactly, such vetting would occur for a movement with no formal membership, no formal leadership structure and mostly online followers, is unclear.

After Charlottesville, Spencersaid, future demonstrations should be tightly focused and organized by people he trusts.This is a serious movement, hesaid of the alt-right,a term he coined. And we need serious people leading them.

Kessler has maintained that he did nothing wrong in Charlottesville.

He told Fox Newslast week that he had never metJames Alex Fields Jr., 20, who was charged with second-degree murderin the deadly crash. Kesslersaid he met with police before the rally and went over safety plans. He also said he had not received calls or visits from police or federal investigators.

Asked by Fox about Heyers death, Kessler said, simply: No comment.

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What’s the alt-right, and how large is its audience? – Los Angeles Times

Inquiring minds want to know: What exactly is the alt-right, and how large is the audience for the movement?

The essence of the alt-right can be distilled to this catchphrase: All people are not created equal. Thats even more extreme than it may sound. Prominent alt-right thinkers dont only believe that some are naturally taller, stronger or smarter than others, but also that some groups are more deserving of political status than others. They reject the concept of equality before the law.

Andrew Anglin is editor of the most popular alt-right web magazine, the Daily Stormer. He has written that The Alt-Right does not accept the pseudo-scientific claims that all races are equal. He also supports repatriation of American blacks to Africa or autonomous territory within the U.S.

Not all alt-right thinkers are so radical in their aims, but they all believe in some form of race-based political inegalitarianism. The unequal brigade includes in its ranks editors of and regular contributors to many alt-right web magazines, including Richard Spencer of Radix Journal, Mike Enoch of the Right Stuff, Brad Griffin (also known as Hunter Wallace) of Occidental Dissent, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance and James Kirkpatrick of VDARE (named after Virginia Dare, the first white child born in America).

The exact size of the alt-right is perhaps not of the utmost importance. As an ideological movement, the alt-right seeks not immediate policy or electoral victories, but longer-term influence on how others think about politics. Still, its possible to get a sense of the scope of this netherworld through web traffic.

From September 2016 to May 2017, I analyzed visits and unique visitors to scores of political web magazines of various political orientations. (One person accessing a site five times in a month represents five visits but only one unique visitor). Through interviews and using the site Media Bias / Fact Check, I identified nine alt-right sites, 53 sites associated with the mainstream right, and 63 with the mainstream left. I excluded left- or right-leaning general-interest publications, such as BuzzFeed, the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. Data were obtained from SimilarWeb, a well-known provider of web-marketing information. All audience figures given here are monthly averages for the nine-month period I studied.

The total audience for alt-right political sites is much smaller than the audiences for mainstream left and right sites. The nine alt-right sites combined received nearly 3 million visits and 839,000 unique visitors, compared with 236 million visits and 102 million unique visitors for the mainstream left, and 264 million visits and 111 million unique visitors for the mainstream right.

But these numbers are less comforting than they may seem.

The coarsely racist Daily Stormer received 997,000 visits and 284,000 unique visitors. In so doing, it drew a larger audience than the sites for such longstanding mainstream magazines as the Washington Monthly (766,000 visits, 259 thousand unique visitors) and Commentary (594,000 visits, 268,000 unique visitors).

American Renaissance (497,000 visits, 158,000 unique visitors) and VDARE (427,000 visits, 132,000 unique visitors) both had larger audiences than the sites of the familiar leftist magazines Dissent (193,000 visits, 82,000 unique visitors monthly) and the Progressive (142,000 visits, 64,000 unique visitors).

Of course, traditional intellectual elites have not been overthrown. The audiences for the Nation (4.3 million visits, 2.4 million unique visitors), the New Republic (3.8 million visits, 2.2 million unique visitors), and National Review (nearly 10 million visits, 4.2 million unique visitors), all well-established magazines, were far larger than that of the combined alt-right.

The picture changes substantially, however, if we stretch the definition of an alt-right site to include Breitbart News. My sources did not classify it as such and the site does not explicitly reject political equality as the alt-right does. But former Breitbart editor Stephen K. Bannon once declared that his publication was the platform for the alt-right and its incendiary populism is very much in the movements style. At 85.4 million visits and 24 million unique visitors, it operates in a different league not only from the Daily Stormer, but from most tradition left- and right-wing political publications.

The anti-democratic alt-right has arrived and established a toe hold in our political discourse. That is the real matter of concern.

Thomas J. Main is a professor at the Austin W. Marxe School of Public and International Affairs of Baruch College, City University of New York. His book The Rise of the Alt-Right will be published in the spring of 2018.

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Stormfront Nazis Think the ‘Alt-Right’ Is Full of Idiots – WIRED

When hundreds of white supremacists took to the streets of Charlottesville with lit tiki torches and swastikas, chanting "Jews will not replace us," they drew the ire of countless left-leaning groups, civil rights activists, politicians from both sides of the aisleand also of Stormfront, the decades-old internet watering hole for David Duke-style white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Many of Stormfront's users viewed the actions of the Unite the Right rally-goers (most of whom fall under the self-selected moniker of " alt-right ," although "Nazis who like memes" also works) as outrageous, shameful, and counterproductive to their shared goals of securing a future for the white race. Stormfront posters complained that the ragtag collection of groups brandishing homemade shields and screaming openly about Jews gave other neo-Nazis a bad name. They viewed the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer almost exclusively as bad PR.

The rifts between Stormfront's white supremacists and the younger, more internet-savvy generation that cut its teeth on 4chan have shown before . In fact, Stormfront's frustration with the Charlottesville rally-goers reflects the same ideological disagreements that have divided white supremacist groups since the early days of the Ku Klux Klan. New racists, same fights.

Stormfront's present-day concerns coalesce around recruiting best-practices. The alt-right's flamboyance, they say, could alienate potential enlistees to their movement of hate.

"Some were carrying swastikas and that isn't good for our image, because of the propogabda [sic] embedded into everyone's minds," wrote user pontypool , although he later added that he was "glad for any whites uniting, even, the morons."

This is still a propaganda battle," another user wrote . "How does this help us win a propaganda battle? Someone died and around twenty people went to the hospital."

Screenshot via Stormfront.

Beyond shields and swastikas presenting a bad look, the two sides also disagree on long-term strategy. "The factions, in my view, generally reflect differences of opinion that hinge on the normative role of the state in securing or legitimizing white supremacy," says Christopher Petrella, a lecturer in American cultural studies at Bates College.

Where the alt-right sees the establishment as effectively useless, Petrella says, members of Stormfront believe that white nationalists can best further their causewhich, again, is turning the US into a white ethnostateby insidiously working their way into the mainstream. Torches and Nazi chants aren't exactly the best foot forward.

By contrast, the forum postings argue, if you can make yourself sound even moderately reasonable to people who'd rather not think of themselves as racist, then you've already won.

Screenshot via Stormfront.

Stromfront's white supremacists rolled their eyes even at the branding around Charlottesville. "Calling it 'Unite the Right' was a huge tactical error, one Stormfront user wrote. "If they really wanted to accomplish their goal of protecting confederate monuments, they would not have alienated the many many left-wing historic preservationists who have actual power and who would otherwise greatly sympathize with such a cause.

I've yet to see any common White man or woman jump off the fence and join the ranks," wrote VikingSong . "The only folk angry about what's been going on are us who are WNs [white nationalists] anyway! But maybe it's because I'm a 'normie,' who hasn't been 'red pilled' enough? Maybe I need a 'woke' twenty something, with a whole vocabulary of infantile buzzwords at their command, to explain their strategy to me because I sure as hell can't understand it?

They even disagree on President Donald Trump. While the alt-right sees a powerful ally in the Oval Office, Stormfront user Danger2443 believes the group has been worse for the president's image than his more traditional Nazi supporters. To his mind, Stormfront's version of white nationalism has already succeeded, because "when a Presidential candidate retweets White Genocide, refuses to disavow its author Bob Whitaker and still gets elected, that means WN is on the way to public acceptance. As for the alt-right, Danger2443 believes that their undisciplined clowning embarrassed [Trump] in front of the country.

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Experts see echoes of a decades-old divide in the alt-right and Stormfront infighting. In 1954, southerners created White Citizens Councils to protest desegregation. A 1956 article described the Citizens Councils this way: "They shun both the Klans reputation for violence, and their haberdashery; their members are respectable citizens of the community, the quintessence of the civic luncheon club. At their meetings there is emphasis on speakers from the ministry and the universities. ... The White Citizens Council movement today has had to throw off the Klans stigma and repudiate its legacy."

That division "spoke to the continuing power of white supremacy in marshaling both violence and politics to prevent equal justice for all people," says Walter Greason, a historian at Monmouth University. "Even within these two main branches, there were hundreds of local derivations that focused on specific approaches to punish civil rights organizations. In fact, it took almost 30 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act for the social stigma attached to supporters of racial equality to decline."

In the same way the White Citizens Councils avoided signifiers like white hoods, Stormfront founder Don Black has tried to ban the use of racial slurs entirely. And its not just explicit obscenities Black wants his users to avoid; he also wants to give off an air of general respectability, asking that people make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and capitalization (no ALL-CAPS posts).

Of course, Stormfront's veneer of propriety is only that. According to a 2014 report from the Southern Poverty Law Center , Stormfront users committed 100 murders between 2009 and 2014. "Investigators find that most offenders openly advocated their ideology online for lengthy periods while sucking up the hatred around them," the SPLC wrote. "Yet Stormfronts founder, former Alabama Klan leader Stephen Donald 'Don' Black, shrugs off responsibility for what he has wrought."

And despite their differences with the alt-right, not everyone on Stormfront thought that the Charlottesville rally was a net negative. The event was the first time in decades that a large number of whites stood up at a demonstration, for that alone it is a huge success, wrote KevinCannon . Another noted that , The pictures of the torchlight march in particular were beautiful and evocative. Made me wish I was there. The fact that Trump won't join the left media hate wagon condemning the rally as Nazi violence is another huge plus.

Stormfront may condemn the alt-right's actions and see them as incompetent fools, but they share the same endgame of a white nationalist state. The more the factions overcome those differences, the greater the risk. "We are on the edge of very volatile tipping point," says Greason, "where the nation could reject white supremacy at its roots, or where we could go backwards into an acceptance of racial injustice that hasn't prevailed in a generation."

In fact, if white supremacists have grown enough in number to splinter and repeat the infighting of the 1950s, the US may sit closer to rolling back those societal gains than many assume. "The outright rejection of Klan ideology is largely a 21st-century phenomenon," Greason says. The challenge now is keeping it that way. Stormfront and the alt-right may disagree on tactics, but they're both pushing toward the same cliff.

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