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A Punch in the Face Was Just the Start of the Alt-Right’s Attack on a … – Mother Jones

A video of Nathan Damigo (top) and Emily Rose Marshall (below) during the street fighting in Berkeley on April 15 went viral. Stephen Lam/Reuters via ZUMA Press)

On Saturday, April 15, Emily Rose Marshall drove up to Berkeley, California, from Los Angeles with a group of friends who were part of the anarchist Oak Roots Collective. They had heard about the "free speech" rally being held in Berkeley by an array of Donald Trump supporters, militiamen, and white supremacists. "We saw this was a rally meant to uplift neo-Nazis and the alt-right," Marshall says. "We wanted to be bodies yelling and screaming in the street, adding to the number of people letting neo-Nazis know they couldn't just show up for racism."

By the time Marshall and her friends arrived in downtown Berkeley, the scene had devolved into street skirmishes between the right-wing side and "antifascist" counterprotesters. She and her friends were dressed in black like their "antifa" comrades, masking their faces to protect their identities. They went near the front line where people were facing off. An antifa activist lobbed a tear gas canister, but the wind blew the cloud back and right wingers rushed the antifa side, swinging.

When the short melee was over, Marshall wasn't entirely sure what had just happened. Marshall, a 95-pound, 20-year-old white woman with dreadlocks who also goes by the alias Louise Rosealma, had been punched at least twice. The crew of right wingers who Marshall, her boyfriend, and others had tussled with for a minute ran up the street in pursuit of other antifa. She didn't know it yet, but the man who had hit her was Nathan Damigo, a 30-year-old ex-Marine and head of the white nationalist group Identity Evropa. Within minutes, a video of her getting punched was on its way to going viral.

Blood was streaming from Marshall's boyfriend's nose, which looked like it might be broken. They left the rally and went to a hospital. After she got in the car, she checked her phone. Hate emails started streaming in. "Would you be interested in doing a role play photoshoot," read one she later forwarded to me, "where you are being beaten and raped (simulated), by a group of white nationalists?" "I absolutely love watching you get punched in your ugly ass face on YouTube. I can watch it over and over," another read. "Might I suggest leaping your ugly, hairy ass from a tall building? Or, perhaps, swallow a bottle of sleeping pills? How's it feel to finally be treated like a man? Haha." Since then, she says she's received more than 1,500 harassing or threatening messages via email, Facebook, and Instagram.

How did they know who Marshall was, and so quickly? One emailer signed off, "Praise Kek and Hail Victory," hinting at the source of the storm. "Kek" is the god of a satirical religion that originated in the meme-driven world of 4chan, the online message board popular among the so-called alt-right.

Archived 4chan threads provide a glimpse into workings of the alt-right hive mind on the day of the Berkeley showdown. "Looks like a rat faced kike," one commenter wrote shortly after the punching video was posted. Threads discussing the video became interspersed with memes of cartoon Jews with oversized noses. "That Jew whore thought she was the Jew bear," one poster wrote. (Marshall is not Jewish.) Within hours of her getting punched, people on 4chan and other message boards publicized Marshall's home address and contact information for her parents, grandmother, and 15-year-old brother. They discovered that she'd appeared in pornography. They turned explicit images of her into memes and posted links to her sex videos on her grandmother's Facebook page. Before Marshall got back to Los Angeles that Saturday night, her mom had received so many calls that she'd unplugged the phone.

Some on 4chan went to work building a case justifying Damigo's decision to punch Marshall. Before arriving at the rally, she'd posted on Facebook that she was "determined to bring back 100 nazi [sic] scalps," a reference to the Quentin Tarantino movie Inglourious Basterds. This was presented as evidence that she'd come to fight and was therefore a fair target. Posters also found a Reuters photo and a video showing Marshall holding a glass bottle as Damigo rushed toward her. Some online posters claimed she had been throwing bottles at them. A military gear site called Tactical Shit claimed Marshall was putting powerful M80 firecrackers inside bottles and throwing them at rally attendees: "She was literally making IEDs. This makes her no better than the Boston Marathon bomber." Damigo, the site claimed, was eliminating a bomb threat.

Marshall insists none of this is true. She says she picked the bottle off the ground to stave off attackers when the fight began. There is no evidence to corroborate her account or the alt-right's. All that is clear based on video of the incident is that Marshall was holding a bottle as Damigo rushed in and hit her. She fell to the ground, dropped the bottle, got up, and stumbled away. A moment later, Damigo found her again and punched her in the face. (Asked for a comment from Damigo, Identity Evropa responded, "The video footage and photographs of the event as well as Miss Rosealma's social media speak for themselves. Other than that we have no further comment.")

The alt-right is aware that the new fight with its anti-fascist opponents is as much a clash of brawn on the streets as a culture war online. During the lead up to the April 15 rally, one 4chan commenter described it as "a battle on the front lines and the lefties help us make fun memes for the ages." At the rally, some right-wing attendees carried signs referencing obscure 4chan memes. Even as people were fighting in the streets, the 4chan meme factory was already churning out content.

Meme warfare is uniquely suited to the far right. Unlike the antifa's culture of anonymity, the far-right rallies around visible strongmen. Outlandish costumes like Spartan helmets and outrageous acts like Damigo's "Falcon Punch" create excellent hero memes, which galvanize supporters and refute critics. Where a man punching a woman in the face would have previously been seen as an act of cowardice, it is now quickly recast as an act of heroism against terrorism, of moralism over hedonism, or of the master race against Jewish globalists.

The alt-right tried to identify others at the Berkeley rally as well. Message boards posted pictures and purported names of various antifa activists who'd shown up in Berkeley. One antifa man who hit someone in the head with a bike lock was allegedly identified through a meticulous effort of combing through images of the rally and matching the sunglasses and facial hair of an unmasked man with the masked bike lock wielder's.

Berkeley Police Department spokesperson Sergeant Andrew Frankel says the BPD is aware of the video, but he declined to state whether it is pursuing charges against Damigo. Marshall says she has avoided pressing assault charges against Damigo because she is afraid that if "they take action against him, I'll have actual Nazis at my door instead of the trolls."

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Alt-Right Leader Richard Spencer Turns Against Trump – PJ Media

In a video he uploaded to YouTube earlier this month, alt-right leader (and white supremacist) Richard Spencer turned against Donald Trump, whom he supported rather passionately during last year's presidential campaign.

The reason Spencer is angry with Trump is obvious: the president had the audacity to carry out airstrikes against Assad's forces in Syria. Since Assad is an ally of Vladimir Putin -- whom the alt-right worships -- this is apparently a deadly sin.

"This is a betrayal of the meaning of his candidacy," Spencer complains. "He ran on America first, we're not going to do all that crap of Barack Obama, Libya, all that kind of stuff. We're not going to do all those disastrous wars of George W. Bush. No, it's different. It's America first," Spencer summarizes Trump's campaign message.

According to Spencer, Trump broke that promise by bombing Assad's forces.

The controversial Putin cheerleader continues by saying that this proves there is a grand conspiracy going on!

I kid you not.

And then he starts on the globalists, although he seems to confuse "being in control of" with "being controlled by," which he does several times in the video, after which he corrects himself a few times:

But no. Those darned neocons (which is alt-right speak for Jews) are back:

Next, Spencer takes aim at Rex Tillerson and Nikki Haley, both of whom he apparently considers to be evil incarnate. Trump's son-in-law,Jared Kushner, is also blamed for Trump's Syria policy. As everybody knows, Kushner, like Wolfowitz, is Jewish, which -- of course -- makes him an ideal target for the antisemitic alt-right movement.

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The Alt-Right and Donald Trump Get a Divorce | New Republic – New Republic

Betrayed by Trump, the alt-right has been casting about for a new direction. Some, like Matthew Heimbach of the Traditionalist Worker Party, have been thinking about getting into electoral politics. Spencer has been considering not only fielding hand-picked candidates for elections, but also running himself. Trumps domestic policies have been just one lame shit burger after another, Spencer said. Hes become a normal president, and we cant trust him anymore. Still, it presents us with an opening. We can be the vanguard we always wanted to be, and vanguards are powerful.

To this end, the alt-right has realized that there is only so much that can be achieved through Twitter and other internet forums, long its favorite mode of organizing. There has been a surge of interest in real-world events. Auburn was one of them, meant to drum up support among white voters who might also be disappointed in Trump.

A group of guys had gathered under a tree on the quad, conspicuous in their matching khakis and crisp white polo shirts. They were equipped much like a destitute lawn hockey team that had been forced to settle for whatever protective gear they could scrounge up at Goodwill. Some wore BMX helmets, while others had lacrosse helmets. A few had to make due with surgical facemasks. One had written the words COMMIE FILTH on his shirt, though he had miscalculated the space he would need, leaving him with a small LTH bunched up illegibly on his right shoulder. I suspected that these were the boys of WAR EAGLE, although they all insisted on being called Chad and refused to admit to any sort of affiliation. Im Chad, they said and snickered. This is my friend Chad, and thats Chad over there. Were just concerned dudes. We dont want commies to start any trouble on campus, and we want to make sure that Spencer gets his First Amendment rights. That guys a god dammed hero.

Heimbach showed up, too. Mike Enoch, founder of the alt-right website The Right Stuff, had asked him to bring down a few members of his neo-fascist party to serve as protection in case there was trouble at Spencers speech. Heimbach brought nine guys, many of them carrying heavy, wooden shields emblazoned with the Traditionalist Worker Partys white logo, a four-pronged pitchfork inside a cog. Heimbach and Spencer are as much rivals as alliesthe two had made plans to meet in Washington, D.C., during Trumps inauguration, but Spencer snubbed himbut Heimbach disliked Antifa more. He figured it would be a good way to not only bury the hatchet, but also show that his party was to be counted on when it mattered.

Everyone was a little on edge after a big fight between fascists and Antifa in Berkeley the night before that left several people injured. The fight between fascists and Antifa is decades old. The two groups feed off each other to rally morale and sympathy. Lately, the alt-right has been able to use this feud as a tool to get supporters away from their computer screens and into the real world. Right now, it seems that organizing to neutralize the Antifas is a big attraction and I hope it continues, Brad Griffin, who runs the popular alt-right Twitter feed and blog Occidental Dissent, told me. Once it hits critical mass, more people will come to real world events. It wont stay corked up online in the long term. It isnt as fun.

Heimbach brought his guys over to the Chads, where a group of onlookers had gathered. What is it that you want? a young woman asked the Chad with the COMMIE FILTH t-shirt. I want Jesus and I dont want Commie Filth, Chad retorted. Whats so hard to understand about that?

Her question was a good one, though. The alt-rights platform had been deeply intertwined with Trumps platform, and now that they were splitting up it was hard to figure out whose stuff belonged to whom. When Trump unveiled a budget that would disproportionately hurt many of the white working class people who voted for him, I asked Heimbach if he was disappointed. Heimbach explained that he basically didnt care about anything Trump said or did, so long as he built the wall and kept the country out of war. Now that he had bombed Syria and was vacillating on the wall, the alt-right was scrambling to reclaim the anti-war, closed-borders mantle.

A screaming match ensued in the quad between a protester and one of the Chads. Youre supporting rape! she shouted into into his lacrosse helmet. What youre saying is that youre basically supporting rape! The Chad, not to be outdone, accused her of loving Sharia law. Antifa showed up, then quickly left. All of them were wearing some kind of armor and facemasks, and the police, citing a law against concealed faces in public, made them unmask, prompting them to leave with promises to come back later.

The girl and the Chad in the lacrosse helmet were still arguing, now surrounded by people filming the showdown on their cellphones. In the extreme rights war, no weapon is more powerful than the meme, and a few hours later the showdown would be posted online with captions that proved ... whatever it was the poster wanted to prove. I dont know why youre a libertarian. Libertarianism is dead, man, one of the Chads said to a kid in the crowd. There is no center anymore. Just be a nationalist already.

How can you say that? the girl implored. American is the land of the free! Chad shook his head, seemingly unable to fathom how someone could be that nave. America is the rape and AIDS capital of the world, he said.

When he found out that Auburn was trying to prevent him from speaking, Spencer, along with Cameron Padgett, a soft-spoken Georgian who had been the one to invite Spencer, quickly sued. Padgett and Spencer, along with Mike Enoch, enlisted the services of Sam Dickson, an attorney with ties to several far-right groups including the KKK. They argued that public safety concerns werent enough to override the First Amendment. They won, a federal judge intervened, and so the speech was reinstated to one of the campus halls.

Shortly before Spencer was to begin speaking, Heimbach and his guys took seats along the aisle, prepared to jump out in case someone tried to storm the stage. Just as an FYI, Heimbach said. If anyone tries anything, just deck them with your shields. Also, if were going to chant, remember that our chants come in threes. No tapering off after two. He turned to me. Did you hear Im suing Trump? he asked.

Heimbach had been particularly disgusted by Trumps attack on Syria. As a proud Russian Orthodox he was enraged by the betrayal. He was also a co-defendant with Trump in a lawsuit brought by a Black Lives Matter activist who alleged that Heimbach shoved her at a Trump rally and that Trump had incited the violence. Now Heimbach wanted nothing to do with his co-defendant, going so far as to sue him for directing supporters to remove protesters from his rallies. Impeach the bastard, Heimbach said. It just proves that if you want anything done you have to do it yourself.

Spencer took the stage with a buoyant Oh yeah! that seemed to catch the audience off guard. As fashion-conscious as ever, he was wearing a blue suit, but this time he theatrically took his jacket off and, in a metaphor lost on no one, rolled up his sleeves.

I later learned it was a new persona he was trying out. No longer content to be an intellectual force on the fringe right, the break-up with Trump was pushing him to become a retail politician. That wasnt the intellectual Spencer that sits and writes stuff, he told me after the speech. The movement needs an enigmatic, badass leader. Sometimes my role needs to be a bit of the entertainer.

Fractured and scattershot as the movement is, he believes it is beginning to coalesce around him. He was inspired by a notorious conference in Washington, at which the audience was captured on video giving Nazi salutes to a grinning Spencer. At Auburn he was building on this momentum, creating a public figure out of the vacuum that Trump had left.

Spencer slinked across the stage, switching it up from earnest to serious to incredulous when he talked about sexual identity. Im a woman this week. Now Im a tranny, now Im gay. Buy this, buy that. This is whats known as the End of History. He ranted about consumerism and football, about how they were filling a gaping hole where our white identity used to be. He railed against the manufactured guilt produced by the Holocaust and Jim Crow, proclaiming that it was holding whites back from being heroes and reentering history. The front rows were filled with Chads and other supporters. The rest of the hall, the overwhelming majority, ranged from skeptical to outraged. Spencers shtick is a mix of history lesson, political science lecture, motivational speaking, and pure trolling. There is something explicitly white in challenging someone to a fair fight, he mused. Someone in the back said, Tell that to the colonies, but Spencer didnt hear him.

The exact extent of the alt-rights impact on the 2016 election remains unclear. But if the divorce between Trump and the alt-right holds in the 2020 election, then we will get a better picture of its influence. In the minds of Spencer, Heimbach, and many others in the alt-right, Trump was a mere trial balloon for their ideas. Now that the world has seen the power of populism and ethno-nationalism, they are ready to take their act solo. We need to have the intelligence to know when to dump Trump, Spencer told me. He might still be able to redeem himself, but its hard to see how. Once youve gone down the path of cuckery, its almost impossible to come back.

Our values, and the ones that helped get Trump elected, cant be compromised on, said Heimbach. Nationalism is basically faith, family, and folk, and you cant just do 50 percent of that. Its everything or nothing. Trump is a spectacular failure, but getting him elected proved that people are ready for nationalism.

The alt-rights biggest fear is that they will become like the Tea Party. Once the Tea Party established itself as a grassroots force, it was for the most part sucked into the superstructure of the GOP. This terrifies every single member of the alt-right. Were not going to go back now, says Spencer. And were only getting more radical and more loud. The only difference is that we have a presence now. Trump allowed us to reach a new plateau and that is a great thing. This weekend Heimbach will hold a rally with many other alt-right groups in Pikeville, Kentucky. He said it might be one of the largest far-right gatherings in the country in years. Nobody could have predicted this four years ago, he said. The far-right is finally coming together and its a beautiful thing. Antifa has said it will be there.

The crowd of protesters had swelled during Spencers speech. Heimbach and his people formed a tight phalanx as they pushed their way through the crowds. They made it past the police barricade and found themselves alone, surrounded by screaming protesters. A scuffle broke out, and Heimbach, thinking one of his boys was in trouble, charged in. One of his followers, Scott, charged after him, waving his shield and screaming, Sieg Heil! The scuffle turned out to be nothing and the nationalists were soon on the move again. The crowd followed. Suddenly people were running. It was hard to tell who started running first, but in an instant Heimbach and his guys were sprinting across the campus lawn with hundreds of students bolting after them. Soon the crowd swallowed them up. A herd of Chads were waylaid and punched before cops broke it off. Heimbach and his crew managed to lose their pursuers and lay low in an alley. The crowd chased down every Chad and fascist it could find, literally running them out of town.

The next day I met Mike Enoch at the airport. He had not heard of the chase until I told him. Weird, he said. They should have just come with us. We had a police escort.

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Trump Gives A Holocaust Speech And The ‘Alt Right’ Feels Betrayed – Forward

White nationalists and the alt-right were dismayed by President Trumps remarks at a Holocaust remembrance speech on Tuesday, seeing in the speech further evidence of a betrayal to their cause.

You can never appease the Jews, wrote Benjamin Garland at the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer. Give them an inch and they want a mile. The only way to deal with them is to ignore them and/or tell them to shut their filthy mouths.

Garland bemoaned what he saw as a turnaround for Trump. Months ago he was a man who knew how the Jews operate and as a man with enough self-respect to not be publicly humiliated by them by bowing to their every whim and demand.

But Jews have their ratlike claws deep in him now, Garland wrote.

Former Ku Klux Klan head David Duke also railed against Trump in the hours after the speech and decried the fact that the Holocaust is remembered annually.

Why is the so called Holocaust the only atrocity to receive its very own Remembrance Proclamation? Jewish privilege, he wrote on twitter.

Do you not have any power? Duke went on, directing his message at Trump. Why are you surrounding yourself with the enemies of the American people?

Duke is no longer a member of the KKK but is seen as an elder figure in white supremacist or nationalist circles and has more than 30,000 Twitter followers. Not all white nationalists or members of the alt-right are as focused on so-called Jewish supremacy as Duke, who dedicates much of his Twitter feed to the theme.

Like the most anti-Semitic elements of the alt-right, Duke now sees Trump as a sort of Jewish puppet.

Alt-right figurehead Richard Spencer, who calls himself a white nationalist or an Identitarian had much more tempered criticism. Spencer, unlike some on the alt-right, is not a Holocaust denier and has even praised Zionism as a form of nationalism he admires.

Did Trump crib his speech from a History Channel DVD? Sounds like it. Every 90s Holocaust clich was sounded, Spencer wrote on Twitter.

For some, the Holocaust remembrance was seen as part of a broader trend and tied to Trumps recent strikes in Afghanistan and Syria, which they see as being spearheaded by Jared Kushner, Trumps Jewish son-in-law, and his daughter Ivanka Trump. They also criticize Trump for choosing Gary Cohn, former president of Goldman Sachs, as an economic advisor.

On the blog Occidental Dissent, Brad Griffen, who runs the website and goes by the name Hunter Wallace, also wrote that Trumps Holocaust remembrance was a betrayal.

We voted for Make America Great Again, he wrote. We wanted an independent country. Instead, we got Jarvanka, Gary Cohn and a bunch of globalist neocons foaming at the mouth to start new wars.

Trump has publicly disavowed both the alt-right and Duke specifically, but many supporters in these circles have held out in the hopes the administration would still bolster their loosely-organized movement.

Email Sam Kestenbaum at kestenbaum@forward.com and follow him on Twitter at @skestenbaum

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Lena Dunham: ‘I can’t even understand what the alt-right is saying’ – The Guardian

Lena Dunham, with Jenni Konner: Its when I thought I was being misunderstood by other women who shared my politics that things were really hard. Photograph: Michael Loccisano/Getty Images for Tribeca Film Festival

When the season finale of Girls aired on 16 April, it was received with exactly the amount of division that fans of Lena Dunhams work have come to expect.

Girls, which Dunham directed, wrote and starred in, has been lauded for its groundbreakingly complex and multifaceted representation of women but through its six seasons, as Dunham and co-creator Jenni Konner discussed at a Tribeca film festival event on Wednesday night, it was never far from criticism.

Lovers and haters of the show would hash it out in a seemingly endless array of thinkpieces, comment threads and forums, which ranged from thoughtful (if angry) critiques of the show and its creators white privilege brand of feminism, to straight-up misogynistic vitriol. Most, the pair tried to ignore. But some hit home.

In the panel, which was moderated by Ugly Betty star America Ferrera, Konner spoke of one male journalist at a screening who sent her into a rage spiral blackout with a question he spat out from the audience: Why do you show your body so much?

It was that hostile, and I lost my mind, she said. Also it was a screening of the third season I was like, Dude, Google it. Weve answered this question.

Dunham and Konner admitted that while they tended to avoid the comment sections, some criticisms hit harder than others particularly when they came from people who they admired.

I can take whatever the alt-right wants to say, thats fine I cant even understand what theyre saying, its insane, and everyone that I know and love knows its insane, said Dunham, who campaigned with Ferrera for Hillary Clinton last year. Its when I thought I was being misunderstood, or willfully misunderstood, by other women who shared my politics that things were really hard.

Most recently, Dunham was the subject of a media furore after an episode of her podcast Women of the Hour, in which she joked: I still havent had an abortion, but I wish I had. During the episode, Dunham had been talking about how women like her still internalise stigma about abortion; she later apologised, calling the joke distasteful but the renewed vitriol from all corners of the internet had become increasingly difficult to ignore.

Im not even going to say I was taken out of context I made a joke and people had a really negative reaction to it, Dunham said on Wednesday. As someone who has devoted a lot of their adult life to reproductive choice, justice and freedom, to be misunderstood by other pro-choice feminists was like hell to me. That was when I started thinking I really need to be more strategic [about what I say].

It was a particularly prescient controversy considering the series surprising season finale, which leaves Hannah in upstate New York with a baby on her breast. That was a real litmus test for people, Dunham said. There were people to whom it seemed totally natural that Hannah would keep her child, and there were people who seemed almost more scandalised than if she had made the other choice.

Another critique which made the creators take a step back was levelled at the shows casting and limited focus. Girls centres around four privileged white women living in New York a city that, in reality, looks very different. It wasnt like we didnt know, but [those criticisms] opened a conversation for all of us to have that we really appreciated, Konner said.

Dunham said that conversation was the impetus behind Lenny Letter, an e-newsletter the pair launched in 2015 as a platform for young women from all backgrounds. On Tuesday they announced the Lenny Letter: America IRL tour, a variety show of comedy, reading, poetry and music which will bring nine Lenny contributors to non-coastal cities around the country, with a proportion of profits going towards supporting young women in the arts.

You learn a lot from a smart thoughtful person letting you know where they think your blindspots are, Dunham said. You dont want to tone police people, but its like [Muslim activist] Linda Sarsour said recently: nobody ever learned from being shamed. So it felt like there was this fine line between these really thoughtful criticisms and this desire to sort of shame us out of having a voice

When I would look at the comments, it was this big generalised sort of, When will she fucking stop! and thats something I know that a lot of women have experience with. Somehow, certain sections of the internet think that if they just direct enough negativity at you youre gonna retreat, and they can move on to their next whack-a-mole target.

Although Dunham has previously distanced herself from lead character Hannah Horvath, she revealed on Wednesday that she did once have what she called a Hannah Summer, after she graduated from college in May 2008.

I spent a year after graduating [where] I really lost sight of the part of myself that felt connected to making things I felt really far away from myself. And I remember working at the childrens clothing store and I became more I behaved deplorably. I lived with my parents, I misused their cookware and ruined my mums La Creuset pot then threw it in the garbage on the corner, I drove my dads car without a license, I was verbally abusive when I was caught doing it, I had sex with the very wrongest people I was just on this tear, and I was like, How far can this go? And then at the end of August my back went out because thats who I am, she said, laughing.

The two weeks Dunham spent lying still in recovery gave her the space she needed to recognise what shed left behind and she took that energy into the script for her first film, Tiny Furniture. Thats what kind of brought me out of that phase, she said. And so a lot of Hannahs darkest moments or the most gauche, horrible things shes done literally came out of a year and a half of my life.

Konner and Dunham also revealed that if the first season had panned out as they had initially planned it, the first episode would have been the one to feature Jessas abortion.

They [HBO] were like, We might want to get to know the characters before theyre throwing an abortion party, Konner said. I remember [executive producer] Judd [Apatow] being like, Its as if Kramer killed a puppy in a pilot.

Dunham added: For me it was so obvious that none of these characters would ever keep a child [at this stage], and that all of them would be coming from a liberal arts school and wouldnt have any particularly strong emotions about it and Judd was like I think youre not quite properly estimating Americas feelings on this one.

And by the way they let us do it second, Konner said. It wasnt like they fought us on it; they were just like, How about we have another one first.

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