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Alt-Right Austen? – The American Conservative

Is Jane Austen an icon of Americas white-supremacist alliance? That was the startling assertion made in the Chronicle of Higher Education by Nicole Wright, an assistant professor of English at the University of Colorado. Wright noted that Austens name had popped up in several alt-right websites, leading her to surmise that these groups were enamored of the rectorsbrilliant spinster daughter, because to them she was a symbol of sexual purity and standard-bearer of a vanished white traditional culture.

Essentially, white nationalists see Austens pastoral, white, Christian world with its parsons, picnics, debutantes, and redcoats as a validation of their ideology of a racially pure ethno-state where women know their place and immigrants arent welcome. They want to Make America Austen Again, never mind that it never was.

The whole connection seems belabored, and the Austen references Wright cites from alt-right websites are too random to sustain any substantial commentary on Austen and her reactionary readers. Nevertheless, the mere idea of the boys at Breitbart palling with Austen was enough to give liberal Janeites an attack of the vapors.

But hold those smelling saltsand the outrage. This is not the first time that reactionaries have sung hosannas to Austen, nor will it be the last. Who can forget that one of her most famous admirers was the arch-imperialist Rudyard Kipling? Glory, love, and honor unto Englands Jane! he wrote, in a verse aglow with warm national pride.

Kipling, of course, is far too complex, compassionate, and protean a writer to be reduced to an alt-rightist. But there can be no doubt that his imperialist and racial views shaded in that direction. Kiplings name and poems pop up on alt-right forums with far more frequency than Austens. Which is unsurprising given that his lifelong cri de coeur was the White Mans civilizing mission, a cause he continued to stubbornly champion long after it had become embarrassingly unfashionable to do so. After the First World War, as his reputation declined thanks to his deranged anti-Hun propagandahe demanded that Germans be referred to as it and not he or theyhe became the target of liberal lampoon and was disparaged as a bitter reactionary out of touch with the changing times.

How ironic, then, that it was during this most illiberal phase of his life that this jingo imperialist, to use Orwells phrase, wrote a short story that popularized the term Janeite, coined by his friend, the revered critic George Saintsbury, as a handy label for what he called the sect of Jane Austen fans. Saintsbury, a brilliant scholar and vinophile, was a high Anglican and arch-conservative who categorically railed against progressive political reforms, from universal franchise to Catholic Emancipation to pay raises for window cleaners. Orwell remarked of his belligerence that it takes a lot of guts to be openly such a skunk as that. But since Saintsbury invented the term Janeite and Kipling magnified it, every Austen fan who embracesthe moniker todayowes these two mena debt of gratitude.

Indeed, it was Kiplings short story The Janeites, a tour de force of comic pathos, that came to mind when I read Wrights article; or, rather, when I saw the waggish illustration accompanying it, of Austen sporting an improbable bonnet: a red Make America Great Again baseball cap. (The cap on its own, without the slogan, is an especially fitting accessory, since Austen actually mentions base-ball in Northanger Abbey as one of the games played by her tomboy heroine Catherine Moreland.) Kiplings titular Janeites are an equally improbable bunch: a group of hard-talking soldiers hunkered down in the muddy, rodent-infested trenches of World War I. There are five Janeites in all, most of whom arent particularly respectful of, or well-disposed to, women. Today, theyd almost certainly be called misogynists. The only woman whom they say a good word for, says the newbie Janeite, Humberstall, is this Jane.

The simple-minded Humberstall, who works as a mess waiter in the trenches, is the protagonist of the story and a quintessential Kipling hero: a conscientious, brave, and unsophisticated English soldier with a spit-and-polish work ethic, a patriot ready to die for flag and comrade. As it turns out, he is the only Janeite to survive; the other four are killed in a massive bombardment that destroys the Battery. We meet Humberstall after the war, when he has returned to his civilian job as a London hairdresser. Strong as an ox but with his mental faculties impaired by the war, he is an enormous man with bewildered eyes. It is Humberstall who relates, in thick and often impenetrable cockneyKipling was infuriatingly fond of idiolecthow, despite his low rank, he had been inducted into a secret society of Janeites comprising his senior officers. In actuality there was no secret society (just a group of ardent Austen aficionados), but Humberstall was conned into believing one existed. They even had a password, he says: Tilniz an trapdoors, which Janeites will recognize as Tilneys and trap-doors from Northanger Abbey. Being part of this select fellowship was a source of immense pride to him and the highpoint of his war experience. It was a appy little Group. I wouldnt a changed with any other, he says, invoking the happy ghost of Henry Vs band of brothers at the Battle of Agincourt.

With the war over, he finds himself returning nostalgically to all her six books now for pleasure. But, he grouses, becoming a Janeite wasnt easy. He had to read all her novelsno easy task for someone like him. Initially, he found it difficult to understand why these officers were obsessed by a little old maid ood written alf a dozen books about a hundred years ago. Even worse, her quiet novels werent adventurous, nor smutty, nor what youd call even interestin. Nor were her characters particularly exciting.

Humberstall cant spell (Lady Catherine de Bugg) or remember the names of characters or novel titles. Anne Elliot and Captain Wentworth of Persuasion are Miss Whats-her Name and Captain Tother Bloke, and Northanger Abbey is some Abbey or other. When one of the Janeites declares that Austen didnt die barren but produced a lawful issue named Enery James, he believes the novelist is her son. But Austen could not have asked for a more perceptive and loyal reader. He unwittingly pays her a tremendous compliment when he observes that her unexciting characters from a hundred years ago are just like people he comes across every day. The oily Reverend Collins from Pride and Prejudice, always on the make an lookin to marry money, reminds him of the troop-leader from his Boy Scout years. He could swear that the wholesale grocers imperious wife is the duplicate of Lady Catherine de Bugg. And as for his chatterbox aunt, shes about as vapid as Miss Bates from Emma, an old maid runnin about like a hen with er ead cut off, an her tongue loose at both ends.

As Humberstall continues to read Jane (the name by which he always refers to her), she gets under his skin and he goes from being an on-the-make Janeite to a true Janeite. In the wake of the bombardment, he is sneaked onto an overcrowded hospital train by a bony nurse who is so delighted to learn that he, too, is an Austen fan that she declares shed happily kill a brigadier to make room for him. It is with great feeling, therefore, that he bestows on Jane the soldiers highest accolade: Theres no one to touch Jane when youre in a tight place. Gawd bless er, whoever she was.

This gauche cart-horse of a man, who lives with his mother and has never had a relationship with a woman, is an unlikely Janeite. With his working-class roots and cockney accent, he would be a misfit among the trendy, tea-drinking, Bath-visiting, costume-wearing, Regency-fetishizing Janeites of today. We dont know what his politics are but it doesnt really matterand that is Kiplings whole point. There is no one kind of Janeite; no one owns her.

Theres nothing new about trying to appropriate Austen politically. As Freya Johnston wrote recently in the Prospect, Austen has been repackaged down the years as a radical, a prude and a saucepot, pro- and anti-colonial, a feminist and a downright bitch. Did she acquiesce to the slave trade by not denouncing it in Mansfield Park, where the titular estate is owned by a sugar plantation owner? Or was she a covert abolitionist for naming it after the reformist judge Lord Mansfield who described slavery as so odious? One cant be sure, and these debates will go on forever. There will always be those on the far left and far righthe alt-right includedand others on the make who will try to refashion Austen in their own ideological image, but as Humberstall would no doubt assure us, the old maid doesnt need protecting. Shed certainly scorn anything as fatuous as a safe space.

It should be a truth universally acknowledged that anyone at any point on the political spectrum can derive pleasure and laughter and wisdom from Austens sharp and beautiful prose, her moral plots, her sly humor, and her lethal insight into human nature. Take that one devastating line from Emma that so thoroughly exposes societal hypocrisy: The stain of illegitimacy, unbleached by nobility or wealth, would have been a stain indeed. As Humberstall says wonderingly, someow Jane put it down all so naked it made you ashamed.

Published in 1924, Kiplings ode to Englands Jane was rendered all the more poignant by the tragic circumstances it had grown out of. In September 1915, after Kiplings beloved son John went missing in action and was presumed dead, it was Austens novels that brought the grieving family some small measure of comfort. On those long and unbearable war evenings, after the slow drawing down of blinds, Kipling read aloud to his wife Carrie and their daughter, bringing them, in Carries words great delight. Austen saw them through their tight place just as she would see Humberstall through his.

America is in a bit of a tight place of its own today. What better time to return to Jane Austen?

Nina Martyris is a freelance journalist based in Knoxville, Tenn.

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It Makes Sense for the Alt-Right to Start Abandoning Trump – New York Magazine

Yes, I am now a globalist cuck. No questions. Photo: JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

Last night, left-of-center Twitter was mostly aghast at Donald Trumps decision to launch air strikes on a Syrian air base. It is, after all, scary how quickly his administration did a complete 180 on the question of intervention in Syria perhaps the most dramatic data point yet suggesting that the White House is inhabited by someone who should have never been entrusted with these sorts of life-and-death experiences.

One silver lining, though, came from watching alt-right personality after alt-right personality theatrically renounce Trump for having taken an action thats very much in line with the entrenched Washington ideology of, well, cuck globalism that the alt-right hates so passionately reckless foreign-policy engagement largely driven by a desire to do whatever Israel wants.

It felt like all the big names were coming out to slag Trump:

There was a lot of gleeful liberal and #NeverTrump conservative retweeting, a lot of, See? These idiots have been bamboozled (I may have partaken). There was even a video:

But all of this should be seen not as a shocking parting of ways, but as a sensible move for the media personalities of the alt-right. Renouncing Trump, and eventually abandoning him, might actually be the most advantageous play for alt-right celebrities trying to maintain their peculiar online kingdoms, while handling the weird ramifications of having won.

The incentives for the alt-right, of course, differ from the incentives for the mainstream right. In the days to come, it is very unlikely that Fox News will be devoting much airtime to criticism of Trumps decision. Rather, the most likely narrative will be that Trump has replaced Obamas weakness with strength, that finally someone has punished Bashar al-Assad for his brutal inhumanity (left unmentioned will be the fact that until early yesterday, the Trump administration had taken a very similar line to the Obama administration).

So while its popular to conflate the alt-right and the mainstream right say, the core GOP base they really are two different beasts. The mainstream right will continue to support Trump because it is vested in the future of the GOP, and Trump is a GOP president. The alt-right, on the other hand, has different goals and allegiances in mind. Here are three main reasons its tactically smart for the alt-rights big names to renounce Trump, if not ditch him entirely.

1. It gets them attention. One thing all the biggest alt-right accounts have in common is that they view virality as the most important goal. They are constantly growing their brands, growing their followers, and trying to poke their way into every conversation. Figures like Mike Cernovich and MicroChip openly acknowledge that theyre not concerned with whether what they tweet is true they just want those retweets and likes. Suffice it to say, it is hard for them to resist tweeting opinions that will be widely shared not just by fellow alt-righters, but by mainstream journalists who are scratching their heads and saying, Hmm, there is a mutiny afoot.

2. It allows them to stay in the opposition. Those on the alt-right are, like Trump, not particularly sophisticated policy thinkers. Theyre more into resentful grunts about how immigrants are bad, migration is a cancer on Western (read: white) society, and how cucks control everything. From this stance, it is much easier to criticize powerful politicians than to support them.

This angle is particularly relevant when it comes to foreign policy, because its simply laughable for anyone to have thought Trump wasnt going to engage in foreign misadventures.

Trump not only treated the entire Muslim world as potential enemies of the U.S., he also openly called for the murder of terrorists families. Its very hard to hold these stances while also being an isolationist. The alt-right simply ignored this during the campaign, aggressively painting Trump as a noninterventionist alternative to a hawkish Hillary Clinton. So from the point of view of the alt-right, supporting Trump during the campaign but renouncing him now that hes in office allows them to maintain a stance of general disdain for, again, those globalist cucks who run foreign policy a stance that is vital for their brand.

3. More specifically, denouncing Trump allows the alt-right to continue fueling conspiracy theories about how globalists (read: Jews) control everything. Anti-Semitism is a cornerstone of the alt-rights beliefs, particularly on foreign policy. Sometimes, this is explicit, as in the case of Baked Alaska tweeting openly about the Jewish question. Other times, it is ever-so-thinly veiled in the form of the alt-rights obsession with the globalists and neocons who ostensibly control everything behind the scenes. Now, there are obviously legitimate critiques to be made of neoconservatism and its disastrous legacy, but it simply doesnt take much time mucking about in the alt-right swamplands to see that there is a lot of coded anti-Semitism going on there.

If youre the sort of person who wants to believe that a cabal of Jews control the U.S. military arsenal, or for whom its brand-convenient to spread those beliefs, Trumps decision to attack Syria is great news. It can be quite effectively framed as, Well, we wanted to believe Trump was a true reformer, but unfortunately the (((foreign-policy establishment))) got to him, too. It allows you to enjoy the benefits of being a provocateur who supported Trump when it appeared unlikely he would win, and then who criticized Trump once he was in power all despite the fact that there was never any reason to think Trump had any interest in a Ron Paulian foreign policy.

In fact, versions of this are already popping up:

The outsiderism really is key here. Remember that despite the noxious anti-Semitism and racism of the alt-right, the movement has always tried to maintain a pranky, anti-establishment feel. Its much more difficult to retain that feel when your man is in charge, running everything and bombing other countries. Much as the GOP itself learned that in certain ways its less fun to hold power than to criticize power, the alt-right, in its own way, seems to be internalizing the same lesson.

Dude Goes on Vacation With 9 Strangers Because Their Friend With the Same Name Bailed

She wrongly referred to the meme as her favorite GIF.

Hes working on driverless cars.

The driver filmed the passenger yelling and kicking his back seat via a dashboard camera.

The alt-right benefits greatly from adopting the stance of an outsider. Trump is no longer an outsider, as his Syria decision helps to demonstrate.

Its the software that matters most.

When one Joe McGrath couldnt go to Spain, his friends found a Joe McGrath 2.0 on Facebook to replace him.

Thirty-something developers looking to build the next big thing are consulting high-school and college students to learn what works.

In 2013, Trump warned the United States not to attack Syria.

The text-to-caption feature is pretty good, though.

One of the alt government accounts seems to have touched a nerve.

The stunt comes one day after Pepsi pulled its tone-deaf ad.

Why all the electronic stuff in your life are suddenly so desperate to start up a conversation.

Just pinch.

A new meme has sprung up, mocking Facebook for copying Snapchats Stories feature.

The most satisfying way to rid your computer of crumbs.

Once an image is removed, Facebook will use new photo-matching technology to keep it from getting re-posted.

A new social network offers a respite from online toxicity, mostly because few are on it.

A new story about one of the leading pro-Trump Twitter figures shows that its hard work being a #MAGA troll.

Twitter had plenty to say about Kendall Jenner handing a can of Pepsi to a police officer at a protest.

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Alt-Right Austen? | The American Conservative – The American Conservative

Is Jane Austen an icon of Americas white-supremacist alliance? That was the startling assertion made in the Chronicle of Higher Education by Nicole Wright, an assistant professor of English at the University of Colorado. Wright noted that Austens name had popped up in several alt-right websites, leading her to surmise that these groups were enamored of the rectorsbrilliant spinster daughter, because to them she was a symbol of sexual purity and standard-bearer of a vanished white traditional culture.

Essentially, white nationalists see Austens pastoral, white, Christian world with its parsons, picnics, debutantes, and redcoats as a validation of their ideology of a racially pure ethno-state where women know their place and immigrants arent welcome. They want to Make America Austen Again, never mind that it never was.

The whole connection seems belabored, and the Austen references Wright cites from alt-right websites are too random to sustain any substantial commentary on Austen and her reactionary readers. Nevertheless, the mere idea of the boys at Breitbart palling with Austen was enough to give liberal Janeites an attack of the vapors.

But hold those smelling saltsand the outrage. This is not the first time that reactionaries have sung hosannas to Austen, nor will it be the last. Who can forget that one of her most famous admirers was the arch-imperialist Rudyard Kipling? Glory, love, and honor unto Englands Jane! he wrote, in a verse aglow with warm national pride.

Kipling, of course, is far too complex, compassionate, and protean a writer to be reduced to an alt-rightist. But there can be no doubt that his imperialist and racial views shaded in that direction. Kiplings name and poems pop up on alt-right forums with far more frequency than Austens. Which is unsurprising given that his lifelong cri de coeur was the White Mans civilizing mission, a cause he continued to stubbornly champion long after it had become embarrassingly unfashionable to do so. After the First World War, as his reputation declined thanks to his deranged anti-Hun propagandahe demanded that Germans be referred to as it and not he or theyhe became the target of liberal lampoon and was disparaged as a bitter reactionary out of touch with the changing times.

How ironic, then, that it was during this most illiberal phase of his life that this jingo imperialist, to use Orwells phrase, wrote a short story that popularized the term Janeite, coined by his friend, the revered critic George Saintsbury, as a handy label for what he called the sect of Jane Austen fans. Saintsbury, a brilliant scholar and vinophile, was a high Anglican and arch-conservative who categorically railed against progressive political reforms, from universal franchise to Catholic Emancipation to pay raises for window cleaners. Orwell remarked of his belligerence that it takes a lot of guts to be openly such a skunk as that. But since Saintsbury invented the term Janeite and Kipling magnified it, every Austen fan who embracesthe moniker todayowes these two mena debt of gratitude.

Indeed, it was Kiplings short story The Janeites, a tour de force of comic pathos, that came to mind when I read Wrights article; or, rather, when I saw the waggish illustration accompanying it, of Austen sporting an improbable bonnet: a red Make America Great Again baseball cap. (The cap on its own, without the slogan, is an especially fitting accessory, since Austen actually mentions base-ball in Northanger Abbey as one of the games played by her tomboy heroine Catherine Moreland.) Kiplings titular Janeites are an equally improbable bunch: a group of hard-talking soldiers hunkered down in the muddy, rodent-infested trenches of World War I. There are five Janeites in all, most of whom arent particularly respectful of, or well-disposed to, women. Today, theyd almost certainly be called misogynists. The only woman whom they say a good word for, says the newbie Janeite, Humberstall, is this Jane.

The simple-minded Humberstall, who works as a mess waiter in the trenches, is the protagonist of the story and a quintessential Kipling hero: a conscientious, brave, and unsophisticated English soldier with a spit-and-polish work ethic, a patriot ready to die for flag and comrade. As it turns out, he is the only Janeite to survive; the other four are killed in a massive bombardment that destroys the Battery. We meet Humberstall after the war, when he has returned to his civilian job as a London hairdresser. Strong as an ox but with his mental faculties impaired by the war, he is an enormous man with bewildered eyes. It is Humberstall who relates, in thick and often impenetrable cockneyKipling was infuriatingly fond of idiolecthow, despite his low rank, he had been inducted into a secret society of Janeites comprising his senior officers. In actuality there was no secret society (just a group of ardent Austen aficionados), but Humberstall was conned into believing one existed. They even had a password, he says: Tilniz an trapdoors, which Janeites will recognize as Tilneys and trap-doors from Northanger Abbey. Being part of this select fellowship was a source of immense pride to him and the highpoint of his war experience. It was a appy little Group. I wouldnt a changed with any other, he says, invoking the happy ghost of Henry Vs band of brothers at the Battle of Agincourt.

With the war over, he finds himself returning nostalgically to all her six books now for pleasure. But, he grouses, becoming a Janeite wasnt easy. He had to read all her novelsno easy task for someone like him. Initially, he found it difficult to understand why these officers were obsessed by a little old maid ood written alf a dozen books about a hundred years ago. Even worse, her quiet novels werent adventurous, nor smutty, nor what youd call even interestin. Nor were her characters particularly exciting.

Humberstall cant spell (Lady Catherine de Bugg) or remember the names of characters or novel titles. Anne Elliot and Captain Wentworth of Persuasion are Miss Whats-her Name and Captain Tother Bloke, and Northanger Abbey is some Abbey or other. When one of the Janeites declares that Austen didnt die barren but produced a lawful issue named Enery James, he believes the novelist is her son. But Austen could not have asked for a more perceptive and loyal reader. He unwittingly pays her a tremendous compliment when he observes that her unexciting characters from a hundred years ago are just like people he comes across every day. The oily Reverend Collins from Pride and Prejudice, always on the make an lookin to marry money, reminds him of the troop-leader from his Boy Scout years. He could swear that the wholesale grocers imperious wife is the duplicate of Lady Catherine de Bugg. And as for his chatterbox aunt, shes about as vapid as Miss Bates from Emma, an old maid runnin about like a hen with er ead cut off, an her tongue loose at both ends.

As Humberstall continues to read Jane (the name by which he always refers to her), she gets under his skin and he goes from being an on-the-make Janeite to a true Janeite. In the wake of the bombardment, he is sneaked onto an overcrowded hospital train by a bony nurse who is so delighted to learn that he, too, is an Austen fan that she declares shed happily kill a brigadier to make room for him. It is with great feeling, therefore, that he bestows on Jane the soldiers highest accolade: Theres no one to touch Jane when youre in a tight place. Gawd bless er, whoever she was.

This gauche cart-horse of a man, who lives with his mother and has never had a relationship with a woman, is an unlikely Janeite. With his working-class roots and cockney accent, he would be a misfit among the trendy, tea-drinking, Bath-visiting, costume-wearing, Regency-fetishizing Janeites of today. We dont know what his politics are but it doesnt really matterand that is Kiplings whole point. There is no one kind of Janeite; no one owns her.

Theres nothing new about trying to appropriate Austen politically. As Freya Johnston wrote recently in the Prospect, Austen has been repackaged down the years as a radical, a prude and a saucepot, pro- and anti-colonial, a feminist and a downright bitch. Did she acquiesce to the slave trade by not denouncing it in Mansfield Park, where the titular estate is owned by a sugar plantation owner? Or was she a covert abolitionist for naming it after the reformist judge Lord Mansfield who described slavery as so odious? One cant be sure, and these debates will go on forever. There will always be those on the far left and far righthe alt-right includedand others on the make who will try to refashion Austen in their own ideological image, but as Humberstall would no doubt assure us, the old maid doesnt need protecting. Shed certainly scorn anything as fatuous as a safe space.

It should be a truth universally acknowledged that anyone at any point on the political spectrum can derive pleasure and laughter and wisdom from Austens sharp and beautiful prose, her moral plots, her sly humor, and her lethal insight into human nature. Take that one devastating line from Emma that so thoroughly exposes societal hypocrisy: The stain of illegitimacy, unbleached by nobility or wealth, would have been a stain indeed. As Humberstall says wonderingly, someow Jane put it down all so naked it made you ashamed.

Published in 1924, Kiplings ode to Englands Jane was rendered all the more poignant by the tragic circumstances it had grown out of. In September 1915, after Kiplings beloved son John went missing in action and was presumed dead, it was Austens novels that brought the grieving family some small measure of comfort. On those long and unbearable war evenings, after the slow drawing down of blinds, Kipling read aloud to his wife Carrie and their daughter, bringing them, in Carries words great delight. Austen saw them through their tight place just as she would see Humberstall through his.

America is in a bit of a tight place of its own today. What better time to return to Jane Austen?

Nina Martyris is a freelance journalist based in Knoxville, Tenn.

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French election: Young alt-right making waves – BBC News


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Depeche Mode’s Martin Gore: ‘The alt-right liking us is baffling’ – The Guardian

We dont agree on anything the alt-right stand for: Martin Gore Photograph: Travis Shinn

Afternoon, Martin! A couple of years ago I asked your mate Dave what the next Depeche Mode album would sound like. That, he said, was the million-dollar question. Turns out your new album sounds like a Depeche Mode album.

Yes! There are certain things we cant get away from as a group and we do have our unique sound. Having a singer with a distinctive voice makes songs instantly recognisable there are so many bands that have interchangeable singers and I never know who they are.

Is there ever a point where you think, lets do an acoustic or tropical house album, or is it always, lets do what we do?

With this album, we followed the demos we worked with James Ford (1) and he helped mould them into something bigger and better. When we met James one of the first things he said was that he likes to work quick. Well, weve heard that a few times in the past. But the whole thing was done in just three months we managed to cancel a six-week session in New York that we just didnt need.

Did you get a refund on the studio time?

They were very good about that and yes we did get a refund.

Are there enough artists talking about politics?

I think its coming; a lot of artists will release albums over the next six or 12 months and they will be a bit more worldly. Its just that I had an inclination two years ago that the world was in a terrible place.

Ive got to be honest, I kind of miss two years ago.Well, yes. I mean back then I didnt know wed be in an even worse situation now. When I started writing the album I did think we were heading down a dangerous path but its a fine balancing act I wasnt sure if it would be received well, and maybe if Trump hadnt been elected and Brexit wasnt under way, wed be seen as preachy popstars now.

In a strange way, given that it turned out the alt-right are big Depeche Mode fans (2), it actually was a bit of a risk. Imagine their little faces when they put on the new album by their favourite band and it told them they were idiots.

Yeah! I mean that statement from Richard Spencer, for us, came at a point where everything in the world seemed so crazy and we felt as if there would be nothing that could come at us from leftfield. And then that happened! I mean where did it come from? We dont agree on anything they stand for. You could probably pick any one of our albums and thered be a track with lyrics totally contrary to what they believe. Its really baffling.

How are you gearing up for the punishing schedule of your forthcoming one-date UK tour? (3)

It will be the first time weve played a proper stadium here for a long time. Were fairly used to doing that in the rest of Europe. Believe it or not, we thought it was a risky undertaking when we first took it on but it sold really quickly we had to increase the capacity.

Some of the more expensive tickets include a VIP party package including a pre-show Indian buffet. Is it a particularly high-end Indian buffet? Surely popadoms are popadoms.

I havent actually heard about this, so I dont know very much about it. But packages like that are a good way of us keeping the touts at bay a bit.

Do you keep your tomato ketchup in the fridge, or in the cupboard?

Well, I dont actually like ketchup. My family keep it in the fridge.

How about eggs?

I dont eat eggs either. But my family keep them in the fridge too. (4) When I was at school, I had a job in Tesco I was the egg man. My job was to go out every 20 minutes and look at all the boxes of eggs and see if there were any broken eggs. And virtually every box on the top had a broken egg in it. It was my job to take the broken ones out, clean the boxes up and put the fresh boxes back out. Then Id go out 20 minutes later and theyd all be broken again.

During this period did people sing I Am The Walrus at you?

No, but I did like being the egg man.

Whats the best Depeche Mode song?

I dont know if I actually have one favourite. There are so many songs out there!

Im going to have to push you. When I asked Dave this question he gave me an answer. It was the wrong answer, but it was still an answer.

How can there be a wrong answer? (5) I mean, you know, I really like this track we put out called Surrender (6) it was an extra track on Only When I Lose Myself. It really didnt get a lot of attention but I think the melody and the chords in it are really good.

Have you ever burst into a room and shouted GORE BLIMEY!

Have I what? Er No. I dont think I have.

Do you not think that would be quite good?

Er. Not really. I think people would think Id lost the plot. I had many years of being out there and doing weird things to be honest, I think people would just think Id just started drinking again.

(1) Noted producer for acts including Florence + The Machine, Arctic Monkeys, Foals and Klaxons.

(2) In February, neo-Nazi Richard Spencer told New York magazine that Depeche Mode are the official band of the alt-right. When asked about Spencers comments, Dave Gahan told Billboard: Hes a cunt.

(3) In fairness its a pretty big one date theyre playing at the London Stadium on June 3.

(4) You thought this line of questioning wasnt going anywhere, didnt you? Prepare to be amazed.

(5) Dave chosen Condemnation, from Songs of Faith and Devotion. The correct answer is Enjoy the Silence.

(6) WRONG.

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