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The Great Firewall of China is famed for the restrictions it places on what Chinese citizens can access online. If a site provides access to news from the west, conflicts with state propaganda, or criticizes China or its ruling Communist party in any way, it is blocked. But some officials are now suggesting that it's time things changed.

The impetus is not a sudden softening of the political agenda, but a suggestion from the leading advisory body the Chinese Peoples Political Consultative Conference that censorship is damaging China's progress in terms of the economy and science.

Vice-chairman of the body, Luo Fuhe, has taken the unusual -- and potentially dangerous -- step of speaking out against the internet restrictions put in place by the Chinese government. With the government not only blocking access to key websites (including making it near-impossible to circumvent restrictions), but also actively monitoring what citizens are posting online and engaging in barely-concealed state propaganda, Luo says that researchers in China have a difficult time accessing the sites they need.

As reported by the Guardian, as well as censoring sites completely, the Great Firewall of China also makes using the internet prohibitively slow:

From within China, attempting to visit to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization or a lot of foreign university website is very slow. Opening each page takes at least 10-20 seconds and some foreign university sites need more than half an hour to open.

Although China has taken steps to block the use of VPNs that could be used to get around restrictions, Luo says: "Some researches rely on software to climb over the firewall to complete their own research tasks. This is not normal."

Proponents of free speech might laud Luo's stand against the government, but there are issues. Firstly has not proposed that anything other than scientific websites be allowed to make their way through the Great Firewall. Secondly, he is doing nothing to question what the Chinese government is doing controlling general internet usage so powerfully.

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Twitter introduced new safety measures this week meant to crack down on online harassment and protect people from viewing offensive material, but some free-speech advocates are concerned the changes could lead to censorship of unpopular ideas.

The social media company announced Wednesday that it would start hiding potentially menacing tweets, even if the tweets or accounts in question hadn't been reported as abusive.

"We're working to identify accounts as they're engaging in abusive behavior, even if this behavior hasn't been reported to us," the company said in a statement announcing the changes. "Then, we're taking action by limiting certain account functionality for a set amount of time, such as allowing only their followers to see their Tweets."

The so-called stealth bans could be placed on accounts, the company's statement said, if a Twitter user sent unsolicited messages to another user who was not following the sender.

Twitter said it would "act on accounts" only when it was confident abuse had taken place, based on the algorithms it uses to identify illicit posts.

This new automated stealth ban capability became a cause of consternation for Suzanne Nossel, executive director of the free-speech advocacy group PEN America, because she said it could easily become a solution "where there is really no problem that needs to be solved."

FILE - A Twitter app on an iPhone screen is shown.

'Mistaken' moves?

"To take action when there hasn't been a complaint raises the concern of whether there will be mistaken blocking of accounts or suspending of accounts," she said. "That raises a risk."

Twitter has been under pressure to address abusive speech and trolling on its platform in recent months after celebrities and others complained of sustained, coordinated abuse campaigns.

Actress Leslie Jones notably swore off the social media service for a brief time last year after she was targeted by online trolls and harassed with racism and death threats. The incident led to a personal meeting between Jones and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, and several months later the company began introducing new tools to address online abuse.

Twitter expanded its "mute" feature to allow users to block specific words or phrases from showing up in their notifications. It expanded users' ability to report hateful conduct. And it retrained its support teams on dealing with online abuse.

These types of changes that allow users to have more control over what content they see and whom they interact with are positive steps, Esha Bhandari, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, told VOA.

FILE - Twitter's Jack Dorsey is interviewed on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Nov. 19, 2015. The chief executive apologized Thursday, Nov. 17, 2016, after the service let through an ad promoting a white supremacist group.

Control for users

The ACLU encourages companies to focus less on a top-down approach to censorship and more "on tools that allow users to control their experience on the platform," she said.

"Attempts to put the thumb on the scale on the censorship side are prone to error and prone to human biases," Bhandari said.

Newer tools introduced by Twitter, though, give the company a far greater role in controlling what content gets seen.

In February, Twitter began pre-emptively hiding what it called "potentially abusive or low-quality tweets" from conversations on the website. The tweets will still be visible to users, but only to "those who seek them out."

"Our team has also been working on identifying and collapsing potentially abusive and low-quality replies so the most relevant conversations are brought forward," Twitter said in a February statement.

VOA contacted Twitter multiple times for clarification on guidelines used to identify "low-quality" tweets but received no response.

Twitter also introduced a "safe search" feature in February that automatically removes tweets that contain "potentially sensitive content" from search results. A request for clarification on how this content is identified was not returned.

Being a private company, Twitter has no real obligation to preserve free speech on its website. But Twitter has billed itself as a platform for free expression, and on the Twitter rules page, it says it believes in "speaking truth to power."

FILE - The Twitter symbol appears above a trading post on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, July 27, 2016. Twitter, long criticized as a hotbed for online harassment, has been expanding ways to curb the amount of abuse users see.

Global town square

This is a role both PEN America and the ACLU take seriously. Both Nossel and Bhandari referred to the website as a sort of global town square, where everyone's voice has equal weight.

"As a practical matter, decisions made by Twitter have a huge impact on the messages that we receive, and I hope that Twitter and other companies take those responsibilities seriously," Bhandari said.

Nossel noted that Twitter has a financial incentive to be cautious on issues involving the balance between allowing free expression and stopping abuse.

"The power and influence of their platform depends on the free flow of ideas, so I think there are commercial reasons why they would not want to limit [free speech]," she said. "And I think for their users, they do have a kind of softer, implicit contract that they are going to be a platform in which you can express things freely."

Bhandari said it's important to find that balance, because if Twitter "allows a heckler's veto to take over," it will have a chilling effect on speech that's similar to pre-emptively hiding content.

"One of the really important parts of that has to be transparency," she said.

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The official Sina Weibo account of prominent Chinese feminist group Feminist Voice () has been temporarily banned for 30 days after the group posted a Guardian article on a womens strike planned in the U.S. on March 8, which allegedly violated the states laws and regulations. Netizens response to the ban has been mixed, with some criticizing the group and others expressing support. At The Diplomat, Lotus Ruan looks at why everyone should support the group, arguing that the it is ultimately about standing up to Chinas arbitrary system of censorship andinformation control.

The gag order, screenshot by Feminist Voice and shared widely by many activists, soon caught the attention of Chinese internet users. While many have joined the campaign to voice support for Feminist Voice, others had mixed reactions to the news. Under a thread asking how to evaluate Feminist Voices being banned from posting on Sina Weibo for 30 days on Zhihu, Chinas Quora-platform dominated by male, well-educated, urban middle class users expressed disapproval of the group. Seventy-three people liked a comment that says they deserved it.

This does not come as a surprise as feminism has to some extent been stigmatized or is at least faced with complicated public opinionin Chinese society. However, there is a profound reason why everyone should support Feminist Voice on this particular matter to fight back against Sina Weibos decision even if you do not agree with the groups stance. Feminist Voice has initiated a much-needed effort to question company processes for censoring content.

In the past couple days, many supporters have been challenging Sinas decision and simply asked: why, how, and what Feminist Voice offended.This is a badly needed step to push for the overall transparency of Chinas information control mechanisms.

[]As one Weibo user said, I dont agree with many things [said by] Feminist Voice and Chen Yaya [a gender equality researcher critical of letting governmental or government-approved organizations dominate the course of feminism in China]. Sometimes I even find them quite stupid. But I strongly oppose censoring them. Debates would bring us closer to the truth. Only those who pay dirty tricks would stab someone in the back. Joining Feminist Voice and others to question Sina Weibos gag order could be an opportunity to push forward a more transparent and less arbitrary information control mechanism. [Source]

From Leta Hong Fincher on Twitter:

At Sixth Tone, Zheng Jiawen explores the phenomenon of online prejudice against feminist groups in China, with a look at the use of derogatoryterms like grassroots feminist and the negative impact that such discourse has had on the progress that feminists are making in the country.

Gus article exemplifies online debate over gender issues in China. It also touches on a particularly highly charged issue among Chinas feminist community namely, the pejorative usage of the term grassroots feminists. While tianyuan, which I have translated here as grassroots, originally referred to something rural or rustic, in this case it derogatorily refers to dyed-in-the-wool, stubborn, militant feminists who refuse to countenance alternative viewpoints. To add insult to injury, the character quan in the word for feminism is often replaced with a homophone meaning dog.

In recent years, variations of these terms have been applied by Chinese netizens as a means to disparage the feminist community. Some have used the terms to describe radicals who combine fervent calls for female empowerment with a contemptuous attitude toward men. In this sense, grassroots feminists can be compared with the English term feminazi.

[]These days, the internet gives women more opportunities to participate in the discussion on gender issues and provides a larger space for feminist organizations to advocate their ideals and values. However, our prolonged neglectof feminist perspectives in both media and education has deprived the average person of the appropriate terminology that feminists tend to use. As a result, feminist discourse either appears convoluted, incomprehensible, and pretentious, or leaves itself open to being co-opted by individuals in a half-baked way, without their understanding the full force of feminist issues.

Yet the most concerning aspect of the emergence of pejorative labels like grassroots feminist is that they divert public attention away from policy-oriented debates and direct it toward the mindless mudslinging of feminists supposed radicalism or moral deficiency. The depiction of feminists and their practices as fundamentally confrontational may also prevent those who aspire toward realizing gender equality from recognizing the common ground they share with Chinese feminist activists. Even worse, stigmatizing the sometimes-unconventional practices of Chinese feminists such as advocating the occupation of mens toilets by Guangzhous female university students in 2012 weakens the power of feminist organizations at a time when they are trying to influence government policy. [Source]

Also at Sixth Tone, Earlham Colleges Yu Peng explores the question of what we can learn about the womens marches in the U.S. through the lens of Chinese philosophy, offering a Taoist interpretation of the movement that focuses on body citizenship.

Observing events from a Taoist angle sheds light on this unique political tactic and engenders a form of citizenship something I call body citizenship. Body citizenship is an innovative way of engaging with politics through dissidence rather than compliance. Borrowing insights from the fourth century B.C. Taoist philosopher Zhuangzi, body citizenship hinges upon continual processes of political engagement that keep disrupting the established social order imposed upon womens bodies.

[]Zhuangzis citizenship is thus defined by its extraordinary potential to overcome the supposed superiority of one type of body over another. Whether we speak of homosexuals or heterosexuals, black people or white people, the disabled or the able-bodied, men or women, the Zhuangzian body questions the dualistic relationships between these groups. By abolishing boundaries between them, it bespeaks a oneness that binds everyone together. Zhuangzis ideal form of citizenship, then, is one that challenges restrictive definitions and embraces us all, regardless of social status. It is a forceful refutation of social segregation of any kind, and is constantly vigilant against any attempt to isolate one body from another.

[]The womens marches allow us to transcend the confines of our own bodies. We are more than ourselves when we are the bodies of others as well. Streets become new political sites in which notions of, for example, male, gay, Hispanic, or old are not only unimportant, but also nonexistent. Momentarily, at least, we become womens bodies and in doing so, we turn ourselves from prescriptive sexual objects into objects of patriarchy-challenging power.

This, in essence, is the beauty of the Zhuangzian body. Zhuangzi probably would have surmised that by claiming Pussy Grabs Back, citizens are translating their bodies into new forms of political resistance. Against the backdrop of a magnificent protest scene, citizenship is no longer something granted and controlled by law; instead, it is something won by the dissident body, something that disrupts old rules and constantly hankers for the new. [Source]

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Feminist Group Gains Support, Detractors After Censorship - China Digital Times

Censorship, whether at a broader or more personal scale, ultimately leaves society with more harm done than good.

Everyone would agree that censoring society from potential evils protects and benefits the people in the long run, wouldnt they? Of course, they wouldnt. Censorship, whether at a broader or more personal scale, ultimately leaves society with more harm done than good.

Though I may not be proud of it, I have experienced censorship firsthand. Witnessing an innocent little boy being bullied by my friend in our local library didnt seem to trigger my preteen brain to spring into action. Not realizing the full severity of the situation, I decided to censor my words and actions in order to not lose my friend. Though I grew to learn that my decision was incorrect, I negatively impacted society by letting a bullying situation go untouched. I could have easily stopped this incident, if not for my personal censorship.

American author Charles Bukowski told how censorship is the tool of those who have the need to hide actualities from themselves and from others. Their fear is only their inability to face what is real, and I can't vent any anger against them. I only feel this appalling sadness. Somewhere, in their upbringing, they were shielded against the total facts of our existence (Bukowski, Charles Bukowski on Censorship).

Essentially, hes describing the simple principle of how censoring is only us pushing away reality, and it is unhealthy for us to do so. Chinas censorship of critical health information validates Bukowskis beliefs that censorship is used by those who want to intentionally withhold facts from others. In 2012, the World Health Organization estimated that about 4,000 people died each day in China due to severe air pollution, a devastating7 million each year (Jolley, End the censorship). Chinese citizens reacting to this created Under the Dome, a documentary created to grow awareness of this increasing health issue. However, the film, as well as posts regarding it, were deleted from the public eye. The Chinese government was trying to protect their image by not having society understand this issue, though it truly hurt China as a whole in the long run, considering this problem continued to worsen at the expense of human life. Meanwhile, President Xi announced that he was fully involved in cleaning this polluted air and expected all his people to be as well (Jolley, End the censorship). However, that idea of society helping out is unattainable considering how people arent even allowed to discuss it openly. This unnecessary censorship put not only China but also bordering nations at risk, considering how air doesnt remain within borders.

Another excellent example of censorship harming society revolves around global warming. It's well known in the media how burning fossil fuels and emitting carbon dioxide adds to the gradual worsening of the climate, though its barely known how arctic ice sheets containing tons of methane are melting extremely fast in some locations (Redmond, The Top 10 Stories The Mainstream Media Didnt Want You To Hear About In 2015). As methane enters the atmosphere as ice melts, it damages the environment much more than carbon dioxide would. American Journalist Dahr Jamail stated that a 2013 study, published in Nature, reported that a 50-giganton burp of methane is highly possible at any time, and that would be the equivalent of at least 1,000 gigatons of carbon dioxide...since 1850, humans have released a total of approximately 1,475 gigatons in carbon dioxide (Redmond, The Top 10 Stories The Mainstream Media Didnt Want You To Hear About In 2015). He also spoke about how a massive, sudden change in methane levels could, in turn, lead to temperature increases of four to six degrees Celsius in just one or two decades - a rapid rate of climate change to which human agriculture, and ecosystems more generally, could not readily adapt (Redmond, The Top 10 Stories The Mainstream Media Didnt Want You To Hear About In 2015). Since this isnt talked about in the news, the majority of society is unaware of how terrifying this situation is and that it is happening right now. The media believe that they are helping by keeping the people in the dark about this horrible issue, though it only leaves us without the knowledge to stop it.

Taking away books from the public is another form of censorship that is incredibly hurtful toward society. Judy Blume, an American writer, notes how tragic the idea is that there are some books that will never be read. And all due to the fear of censorship. As always, young readers will be the real losers (Blume, Judy Blume Talks About Censorship) When books are taken away from society, this unexplainable connection we have to books is cut, as well as the possible knowledge that it could provide us.

There are multiple forms of censorship that are damaging to society and individual life. Whether it be a countrys government withholding critical health information, or swallowing your words when witnessing an act of bullying, censorship is detrimental toward people on both sides of the act. Overall, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you feel the need to censor your voice or opinion out of fear that you may harm others, remember that your censorship will only do more damage to both sides in the end.

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T see what's or less than I don't know Casey said Smith nip this in the normal yet Casey so Casey Smith is falling Kirk and Callahan. Yet you correspond with her. Sent a note haven't heard back LC you know maybe one Avaya appearance by the new star of the Michael Holley show but I do pray for you. Casey's meant yeah beat out Kirkland I cut it is unbelievable can you imagine that news breaking during your show when you don't talk about another. A three hour show until midnight the same husband should on cue for doing an hour showed til seven with with mud. Give us Keefe. From two to six and don't put anything else on its plate. Saying it's distract you really gonna be there all three hours is that. He has battled but it Scotty some nice to beat Italy it's a three hour show that he's at a headline and so no matter what it's going to be taking a time. But the big take away yesterday the big reaction was of course a play by placing all Micah and which I thought was gold at 745. And management. Got involved. You and I were put a tough spot. Put a kibosh on some recent play by play calls. And you know been in Dallas supporters he always does. Censored here Peta people like here that their cars that the number one start the BI and a common goal family might say it's it's got some handcuffs on all of this was Wednesday a around eleven that we started coming out that mastered an auto and Britain were calling the game that's pick. OPEC DeVon relic listen himself heap praise than yesterday ailment podcast in Caracas. It was the Tim Britton and Jason after not as great called game excellent call guys. Radios everywhere 850000 on a number like that you wanna years not since Levitt's arms and where we on in Boston so you had a huge audience going there and Kirk with a brilliant radio mind that he has gets on twittering to starts doing his own. Play by play. So Wednesday this real I'm not sure we can replay here in the post a podcast that we even replay Errol segment I believe they burn the tapes it. But a delicate week a delicate week and it's all we gotta attract people that's been more than. Well it's been like every quarter it's either we had a performance review in the middle of that we had the texting about the show content and we we can't talk about. The pos socks play by play guy and then we had Kirk's reaction and everyone of these were you and I were planning for what the next steps are because if you say one thing to Kirk. You have to be ready for his response and then you have to be uber ready for what that leads to some were talking to like six steps felt alive today in the control room. Try to figure out what you know we're gonna give the dissidents like all be all because the market pulse like skies are tailor made fifty. Yet actually highlight the Thursday ship to me was when Jerry called for more pos socks play by play audio at nine. It by year and I had to tell him discreetly subtly in Europe Kirk on the level of play that's Jack series at a look like it and the league. And Robson blame me my car broke down that was erupt when you're also like it's not a solution. In baton a bad idea and I do what's about it. Tell you was not planning drops from put the game play by play guys allowing you to be kidding me. He paused. It. He get a little corner glanced to Kirk as Kurt was the there was no doubt he said Allah shall I tell Immersion and not element you know a 100%. Jerry is anything to get cart there oh my god that was funny I can OK okay and capsules took all of a millisecond from beside him and his eyes light up in the it is who sit a lot of focused or that he knows that a set Kirk on fire. I'll be clear about the type I might have I he's a parable play by play again. I asked my opinion I'm not allowed to talk show host in the biggest archer host in New England to have that opinion. I can I can have an opinion why. It hurts people's feelings advocates say eye socket is a talk show host an open air heavenly feelings your monster I feel like it you cut me I believe. It goes a bit and that was just a man. While we appreciate the dedicated listeners of the rookie as to podcast for sticking with us this has been trying week for you and I this has been our worst podcasts I think ever. I may just replace stretches of the soccer cast here. Even mentioning he also has still Bob Berry if you want you to know lumber. You also have up front they've brought back fabricated in its betrayed for that it. It should go listen to the soccer casts instead of our show I think I'm cinnamon and seed here in the main air studio and I'm impairment committed and yet I feel. Off Cayard and headphones and they bizarre way to finish the week but Curtis you have work to do. You're gonna represent Kirk minute well Dorchester where are heading I only do like a slob even sales people were concerned. Through my best to represent sales with with some real style and glamour with great passion and reconvene here Monday and try to do better on Monday and it could weaken. This early threat. Jesus where that's what's trending show on WE RU WEP I'd like trump. Could weaken.

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