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Democrats Try To Whitewash Their Starring Role in School Closures – Reason

In what has become an annual tradition, Democrats and too many journalists are marking back-to-school season by trying to insist with a straight face that the COVID-era school closures from the autumn of 2020 all the way through 2022 were a bipartisan phenomenon, perhaps even mostly attributable to Republicans.

"Remember," White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Monday, echoing an administration "fact sheet" released the same day, "when the president walked [into office], more than 50 percent of schools were shut down because of COVID, because the last administration didn't have a plandidn't have a comprehensive planto deal with COVID and what it was doing to our economy and what it was doing to our kids. And because the president putschools reopening and businesses reopening and making sure that people got shots in arms, made that a priority, we were able to open up the schools."

There are several insufficiently factual assertions in that statement, beginning with the formulation that K-12 schools still shuttered as of January 20, 2021, remained so "because of COVID." The pandemic was the stated reason, to be sure, but schoolhouse closure at that point was an active policy choice, one that had been rejected by a majority of European countries, American private schools, and the (Republican-run) states of Wyoming, Montana, Florida, Arkansas, South Dakota, Texas, and so on.

President Donald Trump may not have had what the Biden administration would characterize as a "comprehensive plan" to reopen schools (in part because K-12 education in the United States is still governed at the state and local level), but he did as of July 2020when enough research and global experience had already demonstrated that children were overwhelmingly less likely to catch, transmit, and suffer from COVID-19urge schools to "Get open in the fall."

Republican governors such as Florida's Ron DeSantis took Trump's advice, as well as heaps of media/Democratic/teachers-union derision (some of which, defiantly, continues to this day). What did then-candidate Joe Biden say at the time?

"If we do this wrong, we will put lives at risk and set our economy and our country back," the Democrat warned while unveiling a plan that conditioned reopening on $58 billion in additional federal aid. Also: "If you have the ability to have people wear masks and you have teachers able to be in a position where they can teach at a social distancethat, I think is one thing.But it costs a lot of money to do that. If you don't have that capacity, I think it's too dangerous to open the schools."

Such fearmongering was routine for the types of teachers unions that First Lady Jill Biden belongs to. Union demonstrations against reopening in the fall of 2020, usually in Democratic-dominated cities, featured such subtle props as coffins, body bags, and gravestones; an American Federation for Teachers (AFT) anti-Trump ad that August claimed that "our kids are being used as guinea pigs." The states that closed their schools mostHawaii, Maryland, Washington, California, Oregon, New Jersey, Massachusettsdid not have in common levels of infection, or hospital capacity, or mortality; but rather that they each voted for Biden over Trump by double-digit margins.

DeSantis was right, Biden was wrong, and by now even NPR education reporters admit that the remote learning favored by Democratically governed jurisdictions has been a generational catastrophe, triggering a parental stampede out of free-of-charge, government-run schools.

The latest numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that since the onset of the pandemic, just 1,689 of the 1,141,899 deaths attributed to COVID, or one out of every 675, were kids under the age of 18, and nearly half of those were under the kindergarten age of 5. K-12 teachers in the pre-vaccine year of 2020 had a lower COVID mortality rate than the average worker. Post-vaccination, the least likely pathway of in-school transmission has been from student to teacher. The one country in Europe that didn't close its schools even in the spring of 2020 is the one that has had the lowest rate of excess deaths.

President-elect Biden vowed in December 2020, if conditionally, that a majority of K-12 public schools would be open within his first 100 days of office. On his first day in office, he quietly downgraded that promise to just K-8 schools. By week three, "open" was reinterpreted to mean "at least one day per week."

There was a practical reason for such expectation-lowering. The administration and its teachers-union allies still wanted one last huge federal payout, in the form of the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, which (after being passed one month later) directed $122 billion to K-12 schools (on top of the $70 billion in emergency federal school funding those schools had already received), as well as an additional $350 billion to state and local governments, which typically spend about 20 percent of their budgets on pre-collegiate education.

"We need a Marshall Plan for our schools," urged the school superintendents of New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago in a December 2020 Washington Postop-ed. (Only NYC of the three was even half-heartedly open.) The hostage-taking was not subtle; neither was the White House's timing.

Just three days after redefining "open" as one day per week, and with the American Rescue Plan still hanging in the balance, the Biden administration unveiled its first major initiative affecting the pace of school reopening. And by "affecting," I do mean "slowing down." The CDC unveiled its long-awaited, allegedly science-based new guidance for how and when to fully reopen schools, and to the shock of epidemiologists, parents, and even some Democratic politiciansand in contradiction to the pre-CDC advice from new Director Rochelle Walenskythe ostensibly independent agency concluded schools should continue to enforce an average social distancing between students of 6 feet. For those many school districts, usually in heavily Democratic polities, that cut-and-pasted CDC guidelines as operational policy, that effectively meant hybrid and remote learning would extend into the indefinite future.

That was on February 12, 2021. On March 11, the American Rescue Plan was passed and signed into law, giving teachers their huge payday (very little of which, by the way, had anything to do with actual COVID-mitigation policies). Literally that same day came word thatta-da!the CDC was now considering revising the social-distance guideline to 3 feet after all, thus finally allowing the dwindling number of CDC-obedient districts to maybe fully reopen sometime.

"They are compromising the one enduring public health missive that we've gotten from the beginning of this pandemic in order to squeeze more kids into schools," complained an ungrateful AFT President Randi Weingarten, whose paw-prints had been all over the original CDC guidance. "Even with the significant investment of American Rescue Plan money," she wrote in a letter of protest to Walensky and Education Secretary Miguel Cardona, "districts lack the human resources and institutional planning ability to make changes like this quickly. Is this something that can be implemented in the fall, or perhaps the summer?"

You can understand why Joe Biden wants to falsely portray himself as a champion of reopening, just as you can see whyof all peopleso does Randi Weingarten: Extended school closures, long after the survey data and global experience argued convincingly against them, constituted one of the most egregious public policy failures in modern American history, the aftereffects of which are still massively reshaping American kids, families, education systems, and cities. They are deservedly unpopular, with few people beyond opinion-journalism trolls still attempting to defend them.

What Biden delivered was not school reopening but a gargantuan transfer of federal tax money to local school districts right as their customer base was running away screaming, especially in cities and states that closed schools most. Occasionally, if grudgingly, reporters will note that spending several multiples of the Department of Education's annual budget just on COVID relief to schools didn't exactly make the schools much better ventilated. ("Among the reasons," New York Times pandemic-beat writer Apoorva Mandavilli wrote on Sunday, include "a lack of clear federal guidance on cleaning indoor air, no senior administration official designated to oversee such a campaign, few experts to help the schools spend the funds wisely, supply chain delays for new equipment, and insufficient staff to maintain improvements that are made.")

But sometimes the president himself will let slip what the school-relief bill was really all about: more jobs for an otherwise shrinking industry.

The American Rescue Plan, Biden said last week at a teacher-of-the-year celebration, provided "historic funding for schools to reopen safely so teachers could get back to the classroom, doing what they do best. Before the American Rescue Plan, only 46 percent of schools were open and in-person. Today, that's now 100 percent. Plus, that law has delivered critical support for schools, including funding for after-school programs, summer programs; hiring more teachers, counselors, and school psychologists.Thanks to that law, the number of school social workers is up 48 percent. The number of school counselors is up 10 percent. The number of school nurses is up 42 percent. And since I took office, we've added nearly 80,000 additional public-school teachers80,000."

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Arizona Democrats will have presidential preference election – Arizona Daily Star

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In a bit of a surprise, Arizona Democrats will have a 2024 presidential preference election to vote in.

The state Democratic Party had been widely expected to cancel their presidential primary and simply assign their party convention delegates to President Joe Biden.

It is common for political parties to cancel presidential primaries when their party holds the White House and the incumbent is seeking reelection.

For example, the Arizona GOP did not participate in the 2020 presidential preference election when then-President Donald Trump was seeking a second term.

However, both the state Democratic Party and the Republican Party will take part in the March 19 presidential preference election next year.

That means not only an open choice for Republicans but also that Biden could face opposition from Democrats hoping to make him a one-term president, such as candidate Robert Kennedy Jr.

Each party had a 5 p.m. deadline Friday, Sept. 1, to decide whether to opt out of the state-run election, and they did not act, said a spokesman for Secretary of State Adrian Fontes.

As reported Saturday in the Star, Arizona Republican Party Chair Jeff DeWit rejected a demand from the Maricopa County Republican Party to cancel Republicans participation in the state-run election and instead hold a party-run election so they could ban early and mail-in voting.

DeWit cited last-minute timing and various legal issues as reasons for his decision.

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‘An ode to bigotry and ignorance’: Democrats thrash defense bill … – POLITICO

The typically bipartisan bill dissolved into a nearly GOP-only measure Thursday as Republicans approved a raft of culture wars amendments.

As the rightward tilt became clear on the House floor, Democrats who had previously supported the NDAA in the Armed Services Committee derided the revamped bill.

The bill we passed out of committee sent a clear, united message to our allies and partners, global competitors, and the American people that democracy still works, and Congress is still functional, the Democrats said in their statement. That bill no longer exists.

The vote is a test for McCarthy, who needs near-unanimous GOP support in his five-seat majority. McCarthy and his team spent the week navigating Republican infighting over whether to hold votes on controversial amendments, which initially stalled the bill, and to minimize defections.

Adding conservative policies to the bill may win over members of the House Freedom Caucus and other far-right members who rarely, if ever, vote for the defense bill.

Rep. Jim Banks speaks with reporters as he arrives for the House Republican leadership election at the U.S. Capitol Nov. 15, 2022. | Francis Chung/POLITICO

They have no reason not to vote for this, Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) said of conservatives. It tackles a lot of the woke issues that have been pushed by the administration on our military in a strong way and it supports our military to keep America safe.

So theres no reason for any Republican to vote against it, he added.

If the bill makes it through the House, many of the most hardline provisions tacked on by House Republicans are unlikely to survive negotiations with the Democratic-led Senate on a compromise defense bill. The Senate is set to begin debate on its own defense legislation next week.

The clearest signal that Republicans would go their own way came on Thursday when the House narrowly adopted Rep. Ronny Jacksons (R-Texas) amendment to block Pentagon policies that reimburse travel costs for troops seeking abortions.

Democrats telegraphed that the proposal was a red line. The measure was adopted anyway in a 221-213 vote, with only two Republicans breaking ranks.

Republicans didnt stop there. They muscled through proposals to end coverage of transition surgeries and hormone treatments for transgender troops, gut diversity and inclusion programs and limit the specific flags that can be flown at military installations a move that would effectively ban flying the pride flag.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-Mass.) and Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) ripped Republicans over the votes, arguing extreme MAGA Republicans had hijacked the legislation.

House Republicans have turned what should be a meaningful investment in our men and women in uniform into an extreme and reckless legislative joyride, the trio said in a statement.

The Armed Services Committee already took aim at a variety of contentious issues in its June markup of the legislation. The panel approved GOP proposals to pave the way for the return of troops kicked out for refusing the Covid-19 vaccine, barring funding for drag shows on military bases and banning the promotion of critical race theory. The legislation still won the support of all but one committee Democrat.

Still, some of the most hardline efforts were defeated late Thursday evening.

Far right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greenes (R-Ga.) push to prohibit the transfer of U.S. cluster bombs to Ukraine failed in a lopsided 147-276 vote. Greenes largely symbolic amendment cluster munitions have already been delivered to Ukraine following Bidens decision was supported by 98 Republicans and 49 Democrats.

Lawmakers rebuffed Rep. Matt Gaetzs effort to block any diversity, equity and inclusion training after nine Republicans sided with Democrats.

Rep. Matt Gaetz, left, talks with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in the House chamber on Jan. 5, 2023. | Alex Brandon/AP Photo

And Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.) came up well short in his bid to defund a congressionally mandated commission tasked with renaming Army bases and military property named in honor of Confederate leaders. The effort was largely symbolic as the panel has finished its work and most Army bases have already scrubbed Confederate names. Still, the measure garnered 177 votes from House Republicans.

In all, the legislation authorizes $886 billion for national defense programs in fiscal 2024, the same amount requested by President Joe Biden and equal to a spending cap set for defense spending in a recent debt limit deal.

The price tag includes authorizes $842 billion for the Pentagon and another $32 billion for nuclear weapons programs at the Energy Department. The legislation doesnt actually provide any funding, however, and must be followed by appropriations legislation.

Troops would see a 5.2 percent pay increase under the bill. It also authorizes $300 million for the Pentagon to continue to arm Ukraine.

The measure greenlights nine new ships for the Navy, including an amphibious warship that wasnt included in the Pentagons budget request. The Navy has said the extra ship was too expensive to procure this year, but Marine Corps leaders have publicly campaigned for the vessel as essential for their mission.

The legislation also would give the Space Force its own branch of the National Guard for its part-time personnel.

Armed Services Chair Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) inserted language to block improvements to U.S. Space Commands temporary Colorado headquarters until the Air Force selects a permanent home. The Trump administration selected Rogers state as the site for the new headquarters, but Colorado lawmakers have fought the move while the Air Force has delayed a final decision for months.

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Trump Appointed Weiss with Democrats’ Blessing – FactCheck.org

Democrats response to Republican claims that Hunter Biden got a sweetheart deal has been to note that then-President Donald Trump appointed U.S. Attorney David Weiss the prosecutor who allowed Biden to plead guilty to misdemeanor tax charges and enter a pretrial diversion program on a gun charge.

Trump has tried to flip the script, saying onsocial mediathat Hunter Biden got a traffic ticket instead of a death sentence, because the two Democrat Senators in Delaware got to choose and/or approve Weiss.

Its true that Sens. Tom Carper and Chris Coons, both Democrats, played a part in selecting Weiss, because of a longstanding Senate policy that allows home-state senators to sign off on presidential appointments of U.S. attorneys.

But Weiss is a registered Republican, according to news reports, who was ultimately nominated by Trump and approved unanimously by Democrats and Republicans alike in a voice vote.

Weiss has come under fire from Republicans ever since he announced the agreement on June 20. Hunter Biden agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanor charges for not paying federal taxes, for which prosecutors would reportedly recommend a sentence of probation. He also agreed to enter into a pretrial diversion program for unlawful possession of a firearm by a user of a controlled substance, which is a felony.

Hunter Biden is scheduled to appear in court on July 26 to enter his guilty plea. The plea deal still has to be approved by a federal district judge, and any penalties would be based on U.S. sentencing guidelines and other factors,Weiss office said.

Although the Department of Justice press release noted that the investigation into Hunter Biden is ongoing, numerous Republicansderidedthe agreementas a sweetheart deal or a slap on the wrist due to the influence of the Biden administration.

The focus on Weiss intensified when two IRS whistleblowers testified before Congress that Hunter Biden had received preferential treatment from the DOJ. The two IRS agents said Weiss requested but was denied the authority to act independently as special counsel and that Weiss was prevented from bringing more serious charges against Hunter Biden in Washington, D.C., and California.

In response to an inquiry from Sen. Lindsey Graham about those whistleblower allegations, however, Weiss said they were not true.

To clarify an apparent misperception and to avoid future confusion, I wish to make one point clear: in this case, I have not requested Special Counsel designation, Weiss wrote, adding that he had never been denied the authority to bring charges in any jurisdiction.

(Graham also asked about allegations contained in an unverified report from an FBI informant who said a Ukrainian oligarch years ago bribed Hunter and Joe Biden. Weiss declined to comment because he said it was relate[d] to an ongoing investigation.)

Commenting on the contradictions between the accounts of the two IRS whistleblower and Weiss, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan made it clear whom he believed.

Do you trust Bidens DOJ to tell the truth? Jordan asked.

Weiss is a member of Bidens Department of Justice. But hes a carryover from the previous administration, a Republican who was nominated for the position by Trump and kept by the Biden administration because he was in the midst of the Hunter Biden investigation. So is he a Trump guy? Or the Democrats guy? The answer is a little of both.

It is typical for new presidents to replace U.S. attorneys appointed by their predecessor. For some administrations, the transition has been more immediate than others.

While Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama gradually replaced U.S. attorneys appointed by their predecessors, Trumps first attorney general, Jeff Sessions, in early March 2017 asked all 46 of the remaining Obama-appointed U.S. attorneys to immediately submit their resignations.

One of them was Charles Oberly, the U.S. attorney for Delaware, a Democrat who was nominated by Obama and confirmed by the Senate in 2010.

Oberly complied with the request for his resignation, allowing Trump to appoint a successor. The U.S. Code states clearly that the President shall appoint, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, a United States attorney for each judicial district.

Due to the Senate advice and consent authority, Senators can make recommendations, Brandon Garrett, a professor at Duke University School of Law, told us via email. But it is a presidential appointment, under the Constitution.

However, Senate tradition put the Democratic senators from Delaware in a position to influence Trumps selection.

There is an old Senate tradition going back to when George Washington was president called senatorial courtesy, in which home state senators get a virtual veto over executive appointees with jobs that exist entirely within their home state, Ian Ostrander, a political science professor at Michigan State University, told us via email. Senatorial courtesy is the tradition that led to the more familiar blue slips process for court appointments in the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Under the so-called blue-slip policy, in order to be presented to the Senate for a vote, a judge or U.S. attorney nominated by the president must get the signoff, or blue-slip approval, from home-state senators.

Given the tradition, Trump is right that the two home state senators had a say in the approval of the US Attorney for Delaware in that the senators refusal to accept the nominee would have ended the nomination, Ostrander said. Knowing this, presidents (or more accurately their staff) will consult the relevant home state senators before making a nomination.Sometimes this leads to a suggestion from the senators that is accepted and nominated by a president.

Thats apparently what happened with Oberlys replacement, David Weiss, who once served as the acting and interim United States attorney for the District of Delaware.

According to the Associated Press, Carper and Coons in November 2017 recommended Weiss to the White House for the job. Carper at the time released a statement calling Weiss an excellent choice for U.S. Attorney for the District of Delaware, noting Weiss 16 years in the office. Weiss, Carper said, is highly respected in the law enforcement community, and I hope we can swiftly confirm him in the Senate. Coons praised Weiss as a career prosecutor and dedicated public servant, longtime Delawarean, and valued member of our law enforcement community. I want to thank the White House for working with Sen. Carper and me to present an excellent nominee for U.S. attorney.

And, as a result, some Republicans have begun to portray Weiss as a Biden guy.

We reached out to both senators press offices for clarification on the role they played in selecting Weiss, but neither provided any public response.

On Fox Business on June 20, Mike Davis, founder of the conservative legal group The Article III Project, accused the DOJ, and Weiss specifically, of covering up Joe and Hunter Bidens misdeeds.

They say that this David Weiss was a Trump appointee, Davis said. I was the chief counsel for nominations when he went through the Senate process. Democrat home-state senators pick their U.S. Attorney in Delaware. They picked this guy, they enthusiastically supported this guy and its very clear why they did this.

And as we said earlier, Trump also posted on social media that Carper and Coons got to choose and/or approve Weiss.

However, while Carper and Coons played a role in Weiss selection, it was Trump who ultimately nominated Weiss. Trumps nomination announcement stated that Weiss, and seven other nominees, share the Presidents vision for Making America Safe Again.'

Ostrander said that while Trump is partially correct that Carper and Coons had a say in Weiss selection, I would not go so far as to say that this provides home state senators with both the choice and approval of the nominee.

Presidents dont have to accept the senators suggestions as only the President has nominating power, Ostrander said. If Trump did not approve of David Weiss as U.S. Attorney, then he could simply have refused to nominate him.He could then have worked with the Delaware Senate delegation on finding a compromise candidate.U.S. Attorneys also serve at the pleasure of the president, which means that Trump could have demanded David Weisss resignation while he was still in office.

Weiss investigation of Hunter Biden began in 2018 during Trumps presidency. When Biden took office, the Biden administration asked for the resignation of all the U.S. attorneys appointed by Trump except two.

One holdover was Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, who was tapped by Trumps then-Attorney General Bill Barr as a special counsel to look into the FBIs handling of the Trump-Russia investigation. That investigation was ongoing when Trump left office, and Durham released his final report on May 12.

The other U.S. attorney kept by the Biden administration was Weiss, who was in the midst of the federal investigation of Hunter Biden.

During a Senate hearing on April 26, 2022, Republican Sen. Bill Hagerty asked U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland how the public could be confident the DOJ was conducting serious investigation of the presidents son.

Because we put the investigation in the hands of a Trump appointee from the previous administration, whos the United States attorney for the District of Delaware, Garland said, and because you have me as the attorney general, who is committed to the independence of the Justice Department from any influence from the White House in criminal matters.

Garland assured Hagerty that there would not be interference of any political or improper kind regarding Weiss investigation. In a press conference on June 23, Garland reiterated that Weiss was given complete authority to make a decision to prosecute any way in which he wanted to and in any district in which he wanted to.

Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna echoed those sentiments on ABC News This Week on July 2, saying, I mean, lets just review the facts here. You had President Trump appoint a U.S. attorney in Delaware. And President Biden had the ability to fire that U.S. attorney if he wanted, as is customary, that new president comes in they remove all the U.S. attorneys. President Biden didnt fire the U.S. attorney, he had his past opponents appointee have total power over making a decision on Hunter Biden.

The fact is that Carper, Coons and Trump had a hand in the selection of Weiss. Its misleading to portray Weiss entirely as the Democrats choice presumably they would have preferred a Democrat. But the blue-slip process does allow home-state senators to exert some influence on a presidents selection. Nonetheless, the president according to the Constitution ultimately decides whom to appoint.

Clarification, July 14: We changed the wording in the first paragraph to be clear that Trump had appointed Weiss when Trump was president.

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No Labels throws a coming out party, stoking Dem fears of a third … – POLITICO

Ive never been in any race Ive ever spoiled. Ive been in races to win. And if I get in the race, Im going to win, he said. With that being said, I havent made a decision.

Appearing alongside Manchin on Monday was Republican Jon Huntsman. The former Utah governor similarly dodged questions about whether he could be part of a unity presidential ticket.

The politicians mere presence in the first-in-the-nation primary state sent top New Hampshire Democrats from Rep. Annie Kuster on down scrambling to slam No Labels as a spoiler effort that could pave a path to potentially return to the White House.

Let me be clear: No Labels is trying to use a false message of unity to sow division, Kuster said in a statement. Their plan to run a third-party ticket in 2024 will pave the path for the most extreme, far-right candidate to win the White House namely, former President Trump.

On the same day as the No Labels event, a new group of prominent Democrats and Republicans including former House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and former Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.) said it was launching a super PAC specifically to fight No Labels.

The group, Citizens to Save Our Republic, paired its launch with internal polling that suggested to them a No Labels candidate could tip the election in favor of Trump. That comes on top of public polling that shows many Republicans and Democrats alike arent thrilled with the idea of a Biden-Trump rematch.

[No Labels] is not a serious effort. But they do have potentially a very important role to play in swinging the election in battleground states, former Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.), whos involved with Citizens to Save Our Republic, told POLITICO outside No Labels New Hampshire event.

If Trump is the candidate, Joe Biden will win, Downey said. And the only way that he will not win is if we have third-party candidates on different ballots in different states.

Pat McCrory, the former North Carolina governor who is working with No Labels, who introduced Manchin and who spoke on the groups behalf, dismissed the backlash as nothing more than operatives out of Washington, D.C., who want to just keep the status quo.

But Im telling you it wont work, McCrory said on stage, flanked by Joe Lieberman, the former Democratic U.S. senator turned independent, and civil rights leader Benjamin Chavis Jr., the groups national co-chair. Were going to get on the ballot.

McCrory echoed No Labels previous comments that a decision on whether to come forward with an actual presidential candidate wont come until after Super Tuesday.

He said he hopes it wont be necessary but that if by Super Tuesday we see the final two candidates as Trump and Biden, we will present a president and vice president ... if we see we have an opportunity to win.

If the choices are Trump and Biden, Thats not the choice we want, McCrory said.

Manchin brushed aside the counter-offensive against No Labels, saying everybody has their motive.

The business of politics is big business, Manchin told reporters after greeting some of the attendees packed into overflow rooms at Saint Anselm College. The politics in Washington is a better business model if they can keep you divided. Were trying to say: Hey boys, get off your high horse on the right and the left and come back together and lets do our job.

The fear erupting among many Democrats and Trump-critical Republicans is that just enough voters will be attracted to the idea of another option, even though that option stands little chance of winning the Electoral College vote. No Labels call for a centrist White House and consensus governing might have enough resonance with enough of the electorate to matter.

Such a threat has united disparate factions within the Democratic ranks. Rahna Epting, executive director of the progressive MoveOn PAC said Manchin should just say so and stop playing footsie with the dark money, MAGA funded No Labels.

And the centrist Third Way issued a one-pager saying No Labels, for all its attention to the national debt, does not have a single, serious idea of how to reduce it.

Its a reference to No Labels just-released Common Sense policy agenda, which is inspired by Thomas Paines famed pamphlet calling for independence from England in 1776. No Labels agenda calls for lawmakers to bring down healthcare costs, regain control of the nations borders and fix the criminal justice system so career criminals cant keep committing crimes.

Even in the room for the town hall on Monday, several Democrats were voicing concerns about the impact No Labels could have on the outcome in 2024.

It was interesting to see how many people came, said Thalia Floras, a New Hampshire Democrat. Im very concerned about a third party and I wanted to be here to listen to what they have to say.

In addition to Manchin and Huntsman, the No Labels event listed among participants former Republican Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, former director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair and former South Carolina Rep. Joe Cunningham, whose name turned heads because he was recently endorsed by Biden for his bid to be South Carolinas Democrat governor.

POLITICO requested interviews with Cunningham and Huntsman. No Labels initially agreed to make them available but then pulled back, saying reporters could instead ask questions during a question-and-answer session for reporters with Manchin and Huntsman.

No Labels could be particularly damaging to Biden in New Hampshire, where the outside group could capitalize on both the states sizable share of independent voters and on Democrats anger over the presidents attempts to strip the state of its prized first primary.

Steve Shurtleff, a New Hampshire lawmaker and former state House speaker who supported Bidens 2020 bid but is now open to alternatives said the planets seem to be aligned for No Labels to make a serious play in the state.

I personally like Joe Biden. Ive always supported him. I was one of his presidential electors two years ago, Shurtleff said in an interview. But I wish he would step down and not run.

Asked after No Labels made its case in New Hampshire whether he would be open to supporting the groups presidential candidate, Shurtleff said: Depending on the ticket and poll numbers between Biden and Trump, yes I would.

Kathy Sullivan, a former Democratic National Committeeperson from New Hampshire, dismissed the idea that Democrats dissatisfied with Biden would flock to No Labels instead, saying the group has been around for a while and never taken off.

Most Democrats in New Hampshire are not happy with the situation with the [primary] calendar, Sullivan said. But to try to hurt the incumbent Democratic president because youre in a snit about something?

The problem for Democrats is that No Labels overtures might resonate with moderate Republicans and independents, too.

New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican who flirted with running for president before ultimately abandoning the idea, said No Labels has a shot at being viable.

Most of the country doesnt want either Trump or Biden, Sununu told reporters at the No Labels town hall. Theyre just trying to fill that void.

Mia McCarthy contributed to this report.

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