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Revered libertarian publication tells people not to bother voting 10 days before election – The Post Millennial

Just 10 days before the 2020 presidential election, Reason Magazine the choice publication of the particular brand of libertarian intellectualism that brought you a full-throated defense of the child exploitation that occurred during the filming of the controversial film Cuties has an important message for Americans: don't bother voting.

Reason's top headline in its "Election 2020" coverage on Saturday is a video explaining to Americans that their vote doesn't count, and that "It might be better to find something else you'd rather do on Election Day."

Reason Editor in Chief Katherine Mangu-Ward explains that "the reasons people give for why they vote and why everyone else should too are flawed, unconvincing, and occasionally dangerous," asserting that "the case for voting relies on factual errors, misunderstandings about the duties of citizenship, and overinflated perceptions of self-worth."

Mangu-ward concedes that there are "some good reasons for some people to vote some of the time," but contends that "there are a lot more bad reasons to vote, and the bad ones are more popular."

"Your vote is wildly unlikely to determine the outcome of an election. It's pure math," she continues before delving into an explanation that a single vote is highly unlikely to sway an election. She then poses the question "So are people who vote irrational, evil, or stupid?"

"Not necessarily. At least not all of those things," she answers.

Although Mangu-Ward begins by making the case that one shouldn't vote because individual votes simply don't matter, she soon contradicts herself, citing philosophy that suggests that "ill-informed" or "uneducated" voters "have a civic duty not to vote" because "even though no particular vote is likely to be decisive," doing so while also being "ignorant" might be an "immoral act."

"If you believe your vote is likely to be ill-informed or that a particular race is likely to yield an unfair, unjust, or otherwise bad outcome, you should refrain from participating," Mangu-Ward explains.

"If you like, you could say the rule is don't vote unless your vote is likely to substantially influence the outcome of the election," Mangu-Ward says, after having just provided multiple figures to back up her assertion that nobody's vote has the power to do so.

Mangu-Ward calls voting the "cheapest form of altruism," and in perfect libertarian fashion, suggests that "Complaining is another way to make good on our civic duty to be engaged, if such a thing exists."

"Ignorant expressive voters, even rationally ignorant ones, may be committing immoral acts. All of which is a pretty steep price to pay for an 'I Voted' sticker," she concludes.

Although Mangu-Ward contends that "one person's decision not to vote, or even to make a video about not voting, is unlikely to substantially influence the tens of millions of people who already vote," she knows that if anybody is likely to be swayed by her video, it is Reason's target audience of the libertarian community, almost half of which is leaning toward voting for Trump, according to an ongoing poll from ISideWith.com.

Results from libertarian voters to the question "If the 2020 Presidential election were held today, which potential candidate would you vote for?" currently show 45 percent answering that they would vote for Trump, followed closely by 41 percent choosing Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgenson. Only 10 percent have said that they would vote for Biden.

This comes on the same day that Reason Senior Editor Elizabeth Nolan Brown decried libertarians who are likely to vote for Trump.

"A whole lotta 'Ron Paul libertarians' were never libertarian in the first place," said Brown in response to a tweet from Austin Peterson asserting that "Ron Paul libertarians prefer Trump."

"Ron Paul brought libertarians a wave of racist dingbats who like liberty in only a few areas, from which we are still digging ourselves out. Good the f**k riddance," said Brown.

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Revered libertarian publication tells people not to bother voting 10 days before election - The Post Millennial

Letter: Even the early libertarians wouldve supported a mask mandate – Deseret News

Alexander Hamilton, the highly libertarian founder of the earliest pro-business republican political party (called the Federalists), responds to libertarian Republicans today who dont believe it is governments job to regulate personal preferences, like wearing masks.

Hamilton, in Federalist No. 15, writes, Government implies the power of making laws. It is essential to the idea of a law, that it be attended with a sanction; or, in other words, a penalty or punishment for disobedience. If there be no penalty annexed to disobedience, the resolutions or commands which pretend to be laws will, in fact, amount to nothing more than advice or recommendation.

In other words, if there is a law to stop the spread of plague in the community, it can be enforced. Do you really think we would have an Old Testament to read today if Moses had come down from the mountain with the Ten Suggestions?

Hamilton digs even deeper. He asks, Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint (aka enforcement).

Hamilton would say this is exactly what is happening in America today. Citizens will not conform their passions to scientific reason, or public health justice, so they must be compelled to do so by force of law.

Kimball Shinkoskey

Woods Cross

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Letter: Even the early libertarians wouldve supported a mask mandate - Deseret News

A Conversation With Tonya Millis, Libertarian Candidate For Indiana’s 9th District – Indiana Public Media

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A Conversation With Tonya Millis, Libertarian Candidate For Indiana's 9th District - Indiana Public Media

‘Nothing happening’: Third-party candidacies appear less a factor in 2020 – NBC News

In 2016, third-party candidates in the pivotal states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida won more votes than President Donald Trump's narrow margins of victory.

In Minnesota, New Hampshire and Nevada, those candidates captured enough votes to dwarf 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's own slim margins of victory, too.

This year, third-party candidates are struggling to raise funds, are less well-known and are polling beneath their 2016 predecessors and the unique challenges of campaigning during a pandemic will make reversing those trends nearly impossible.

"I think that there's some good candidates running," Ron Nielson, who managed former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson's 2016 Libertarian campaign, said in an interview. "I'm not discounting the candidates running, but they don't have the persona and the charisma has never been developed in those campaigns to capture in the moment. There's just nothing happening."

Four years ago, Trump and Clinton both faced historic levels of unfavorability, opening the door for a more meaningful third-party vote. But the 2020 race between Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, is different, experts and leading members of both the Libertarian and the Green parties told NBC News.

In some instances, these candidates are not even on the ballot in critical swing states. In Wisconsin and Pennsylvania two of the most hotly contested swing states this cycle Green Party presidential nominee Howie Hawkins will not even appear on the ballot.

Still, Hawkins, a longtime Green Party advocate and perennial candidate for office, said there's a simple reason for why the third-party candidacies have not seen the kind of support that was generated in 2016, when they accounted for more than 5 percent of the national vote.

"It's Trump," Hawkins said, adding that he heard similar reasoning when he ran for governor of New York in 2018.

"I had former supporters, donors, phone bankers, canvassers say, 'I got to vote for [New York Gov. Andrew] Cuomo to resist Trump,'" he said. "Which didn't make any, really, electoral sense. But that's, I think, the mentality. That's why it's been difficult for third parties."

NBC News/Wall Street Journal polling data shows that the lack of a competitive third-party candidate may be more beneficial to Biden than to Trump. In interviews with 215 third-party voters in multiple surveys from January through August, the polling found that 2016 third-party voters are breaking toward Biden over Trump by a more than 2-to-1 margin. As the surveys found, 47 percent of those voters are backing Biden while 20 percent support Trump. One-third of that group is either undecided or backing another candidate.

Jeff Horwitt, senior vice president at Hart Research Associates, which conducts the NBC News/Wall Street Journal polls, said last time around those who voted third party "really did not like either candidate."

"And in our research across the year, it's not as though they have great feelings about Biden," he said. "But when you compare their feelings around the questions, positive, negative scales and things like that, Trump's standing is just much, much worse."

The split in this group between those who are now backing Biden and those who support Trump serves as "a really important sign for where things are headed," Horwitt added.

Lack of name recognition could also be a factor. In 2016, the Libertarian ticket featured two former governors, while the Green Party nominated Jill Stein, who had been the party's presidential candidate in 2012. The 2020 third-party and independent field features Hawkins and Libertarian nominee Jo Jorgensen, a Clemson University professor who was the party's vice presidential nominee in 1996. There's also rap mogul Kanye West, who is only on the ballot in a handful of states and has said he is "walking," not running for office, and a collage of lesser-known candidates run as the standard-bearers of tickets like the Constitution Party.

Fundraising provides a snapshot of the tough spot third-party candidates find themselves in this cycle. In 2016, Johnson raised more than $11 million and Stein more than $3 million. This cycle, Jorgensen had raised about $1.4 million as of August, while Hawkins has brought in about $300,000. West has raised just more than $11,000, discounting funds he has provided his campaign, according to the Federal Election Commission.

And while more well-known business executives and politicians ranging from Mark Cuban and Howard Schultz to Rep. Justin Amash, I-Mich., contemplated third-party or independent bids, they opted to stay on the sidelines. Others, like billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who has mulled independent bids in years past, ran in the Democratic primary this year, while former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, Johnson's running mate in 2016, ultimately opted to run against Trump in the Republican primary.

In an interview with NBC News, Weld said the 2020 third-party environment is what it is because "people are scared of Mr. Trump" and "think that he's a dangerous person."

"And so, that would lead many people I think in both those parties, the party of Jill Stein and the party of Gary Johnson to vote for Biden," he said. "Whereas in an ordinary year, they might not vote for the Democrat."

Weld said those invested in the Libertarian movement who backed his ticket in 2016 would not have much of a stomach for Trump, citing what he described as abuses of the Department of Justice, the federal government and law.

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"The Libertarians are very much conscious of the wise restraints that keep men free and they want to be able to operate within that world," he said. "And Mr. Trump is not really being too subtle about the fact that he would like to remove those parameters of our system of democracy and freedom."

But Nielson said Trump might actually be missing an opportunity to make inroads.

"There's a lot of Liberty movement voters who are somewhat undecided," Nielson said. "I think that there's a lot of them that would probably like to vote for Trump and I think that they're trying to bring themselves in that direction. I think that would be the option that I think a lot of them are probably weighing out is whether they can vote for Trump or not."

Hawkins said he believes Biden will deliver the decisive victory that current polling projects but warned the former vice president will "disappoint" progressives, which Hawkins thinks will give his party new life.

"That's our opportunity. Right now, it's tough for us," he said, adding he hopes 2020 is "just a sort of one-off situation."

"So I think our longer-term prospects are a lot better than the next [few] weeks," he said.

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Third parties pin hopes on ranked choice voting – The Salem News

BOSTON From Ross Perot's Reform Party in the 1990s presidential elections to Ralph Nader's bid for the presidency on the Green Party ticket in 2000, third-party candidates are often called spoilers who siphon votes from a Democratic or Republican candidate and help tip the race to their opponent.

It's happened locally, in 6th Congressional District race in 2012, when Democrat John Tierney squeaked out a win with 48% of the vote and Republican Richard Tisei came in second with 47%. Libertarian candidate Dan Fishman placed a distant third, but peeled away 4.5% of the vote.

Third-parties blame the "winner-take-all" voting system, in part, for marginalizing their candidates. Many pin their hopes for a better showing in the future to a proposal on the November ballot to switch to a "ranked choice" system that asks voters to weigh candidates in order of preference.

"I definitely think it would help us as a party," said Christina Crawford, treasurer and former chairwoman of the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts, which has endorsed the changes. "We will start getting more votes, and because of that I think we'll see more people interested in running for office as Libertarians."

Crawford believes so strongly in the cause she has contributed more than $17,000 of her own money into the Yes on 2 campaign.

Question 2 on the Nov. 3 ballot, if approved, would upend how the state has chosen congressional, state and municipal leaders for hundreds of years. Ballots would look different, voters would have do more homework, and close races might not be decided on Election Day.

Under the system, voters rank candidates in order of preference. If no candidate gets more than 50% of the vote, the last-place candidate is removed from the running and votes for that candidate are redistributed based on their supporters' second choices.

This "instant runoff" process repeats until one candidate has picked up more than 50% of the vote.

While some cities, including San Francisco and Cambridge, have used ranked choice voting for years, Maine is the only state to make the switch broadly. It will use ranked choice in the Nov. 3 presidential election, after the state's Supreme Judicial Court rejected a GOP-led effort aimed at preventing its use.

Driven by voter dissatisfaction with the two major parties, Libertarians have seen a surge in numbers in recent years, even as other parties shrink. Despite that, Libertarian candidates have yet to win any federal or statewide offices and have performed poorly in recent elections.

Supporters of ranked choice say it will essentially break the two-party hold on elections, giving Libertarians and other third-party candidates a better chance.

Critics of ranked choice voting say the changes will only redistribute votes among Republican or Democratic candidates and won't benefit third parties.

They also criticize the system as confusing.

"Libertarians have this fantasy that ranked choice voting is going to deliver them to the promised land," said Anthony Amore, a 2018 Republican nominee for secretary of state and interim spokesman for the No on 2 committee. "When, in fact, nowhere has it ever elevated a third party."

Christian M. Wade covers the Massachusetts Statehouse forThe Salem News and its sisternewspapers and websites. Email him at cwade@cnhi.com.

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