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You have seen, I take it, that our vice president has outed himself as a cultural criminal of the first order by revealing that, like some conservative Christian men, he doesnt put himself in situations where he could be tempted to compromise his marital vows, or be plausibly accused of same. He never eats alone with another woman, or goes to events where alcohol is served unless his wife is with him. This is pretty quaintly conservative, admittedly, and not something I would do. But I cant fault the guy, especially given the life politicians have to live. If I were Mrs. Pence, I would surely be grateful.

To no ones surprise, this has earned Pence denunciation from the more progressive protuberances of the body politic.Emma Green, in customary form, does a good job examining what this weird episode tells us about Americans and gender. Excerpts:

Some folksmostly journalists and entertainers on Twitterhave reacted with surprise, anger, and sarcasm to the Pence family rule. Socially liberal or non-religious people may see Pences practice as misogynistic or bizarre. For a lot of conservative religious people, though, this set-up probably sounds normal, or even wise. The dust-up shows how radically notions of gender divide American culture.

Were the Pences Orthodox Jews or practicing Muslims, nobody would have batted an eye. But theyre Evangelical Christians, so that means its open season on tearing them apart.

Pence told The Hill in 2002 that his practice is about building a zone of protection around his marriage. Green:

The 2002 article notes that Pence arrived in Congress a half decade after the 1994 Republican revolution, when Newt Gingrich was the speaker of the House. Several congressional marriages, including Gingrichs, encountered difficulty that year. Pence seemed wary of this. Ive lost more elections than Ive won, he said. Ive seen friends lose their families. Id rather lose an election. He even said he gets fingers wagged in his face by concerned Indianans. Little old ladies come and say, Honey, whatever you need to do, keep your family together, he told TheHill.

These comments show that the Pences have a distinctively conservative approach toward family, sex, and gender. This is by no means the way that all Christians, or even all evangelical Christians like the Pences, navigate married life. But traditional religious people from other backgrounds may practice something similar. Many Orthodox Jews follow the laws of yichud, which prohibit unmarried men and women from being alone in a closed room together. Some Muslim men and women also refuse to be together alone if theyre not married. These practices all have different histories and origins, but theyre rooted in the same belief: The sanctity of marriage should be protected, and sexual immorality should be guarded against at all costs.

Again, this is not a set of precautions I, as a Christian, would take, or feel it necessary to take, but I admire the Pences for the seriousness with which they take their marriage vows. Mike Pence is willing to be thought a countercultural weirdo for the sake of doing right by his wife, his kids, and his God.Thats totally admirable in my book.

One more bit from Green:

That some people are so quick to be angeredand others are totally unsurprisedshows how divided America has become about the fundamental claim embedded in the Pence family rule: that understandings of gender should guide the boundaries around peoples everyday interactions, and protecting a marriage should take precedence over all else, even if the way of doing it seems strange to some, and imposes costs on others.

HuffPo puffed agay couple who started a store catering to diaper-wearing pervs, but ran a piece criticizing the Pences as weirdos for the patriarchy.Given their standards (if standards is the word), I would take criticism from HuffPo as a compliment.

Somebody put on Twitter this deeply affecting World magazine piece showcasing the hard lessons that Mark Souder, a Republican Congressman from Indiana and religious-right stalwart, learned after his longterm adulterous affair with a staffer became public.Souder talks in the piece about his own terrible failure, and how his life as a Washington politician set him up to fall. Heres an excerpt from that 2010 piece relevant to our discussion today:

Mike Pence, R-Ind., took the Quayles advice and moved his family (with three children then under the age of 8) after winning election in 2000. Later, when Mike and Karen Pences fourth-grade son broke his collarbone on the playground at school, the congressman was able to come to the emergency room straight from Capitol Hill. Karen was composed until he walked into the room, then melted. I realized, Im really glad hes here and I dont have to do this all by myself, she recalled.

Karen Pence talked with me about how she sits down with her husbands scheduler to scrutinize school calendars so they can map out days that Mike needs to be available to his family: Not only do my kids need Mike, Mike needs the kids. She doesnt prescribe a Washington move for everyone: We were blessed that our kids were at an age where they could move easily. . . . Every family has to make its own choice.

Some legislators fill their Capitol Hill offices with family pictures, not only to impress constituents but to remind themselves. When Mike Pence took office in 2001, Karen installed a red landline phone in his Capitol Hill office-and only she knew the number. Its a bit of a gimmick now, since she can connect with him on his BlackBerry much more easily, but the phone sticks out as a reminder.

Plainly these are horrible neo-Amish trolls who deserve pop cultures disdain. Meanwhile, anybody heard lately from Carlos Danger? Wonder what Huma Abedin thinks about the Pence arrangement

UPDATE: Great comment by Mark:

Evangelicals are hypocrites for voting for Trump given the disrespect he has for marriage, and his willingness to defile the marriage bed. Because thats Bad For Women.

Evangelicals are crazy religious fanatics for having rules like Pences for safeguarding marriage, and avoiding even situations that might begin a pattern that could flower into defiling the marriage bed. Because thats Bad For Women.

Luke chapter 7:31 To what then shall I compare the men of this generation, and what are they like? 32 They are like children who sit in the market place and call to one another, and they say, We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep. 33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, He has a demon! 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners! 35 Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children.

When the heart is corrupted, everything looks foolish and corrupt.

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His energy and enthusiasm for Ronald Reagans values has and will continue to inspire a new generation of young people, Walker added in a statement.

Pence left office last month amid a strained relationship with former President Donald Trump following his certification of Joe Bidens election in the Senate and the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol. The latest gig is an effort to smooth his transition back into the upper ranks of the conservative movement a development that comes as his former boss remains secluded in Florida at his Mar-a-Lago estate, awaiting a second impeachment trial in the Senate.

On Thursday, Pence announced that he would join the Heritage Foundation, another conservative institution, as a distinguished visiting fellow focused on public policy.

Hosting a podcast wont be an entirely new venture for Pence, who is 61. A former Indiana governor, he spent a decade prior to his 2000 election to Congress as a prominent conservative radio personality in the Midwest a trade he then used to launch his political career. His YAF-sponsored show, which will be aimed at a younger audience than the listeners he drew years ago on The Mike Pence Show, is similar to an arrangement the conservative youth group had with Reagan, then the governor of California, when YAF served as a sponsor for his daily radio commentary in the mid-1970s.

The vice president will certainly be focused on the conservative accomplishments of the last four years and projecting those accomplishments and lessons learned forward, a spokesperson for Pence said.

Pence is also said to be eyeing a potential book deal, and has plans to create a new fundraising committee that would serve as his main conduit to Republican donors as he works to boost House and Senate GOP candidates in the 2022 midterm elections and weighs a future presidential bid of his own in 2024.

The former vice president, who recently returned from a post-White House vacation to the Caribbean island of Saint Croix, is currently living in the Washington suburbs with plans to keep a presence in both D.C. and his home state of Indiana moving forward.

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Mike Pence is starting a podcast - POLITICO

After Donald Trump had exhausted all of his claims of voter fraud and could contrive no more conspiracy theories that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him, and after his revolving menagerie of legal mouthpieces had all of their motions tossed out of every venue up to the supreme court, and after his reliable enabler, Attorney General William Barr, informed him his accusations were false and he had reached the end of the line, and resigned, Trump came as a last resort to rest his slipping hold on power on his most unwavering defender and ceaseless flatterer, who had never let him down: his vice-president, Mike Pence.

Nobody was more responsible for fostering the cult of Trump. The evangelical Pence had been Trumps rescuer, starting with his forgiveness for the miscreant in the crisis during the 2016 campaign over Trumps Access Hollywood grab them by the pussy tape and then over the disclosure of the Individual One hush money payoff to a porn star about a one-night stand to shut her up before election day AKA the latest baseless allegations. Pence was the indispensable retainer who delivered the evangelical base, transforming it through the alchemy of his faith into Trumps rock of ages. After every malignant episode, from Charlottesville (I stand with the president) to coronavirus (The president took another historic step), the pious Pence could be counted on to bless Trump for his purity of heart and to shepherd the flock of true believers.

Trumps got the populist nationalists, Stephen Bannon, Trumps pardoned former senior adviser, remarked. But Pence is the base. Without Pence, you dont win.

Withstanding the howling winds of narcissism, the unshakably self-abasing Pence upheld the cross over Trump. On the evening of 3 May 2017, Trump welcomed his evangelical advisory board for dinner in the Blue Room of the White House.

Ive been with [Trump] alone in the room when the decisions are made, Pence testified to the assembled pastors. He and I have prayed together. This is somebody who shares our views, shares our values, shares our beliefs.

Nobody more than Pence had modeled adulation of Trump to become the standard for sycophantic imitation. At the first meeting of members of Trumps cabinet, on 12 June 2017, the president called on each to offer praise.

Im going to start with our vice-president. Where is our vice-president? Trump asked. Well start with Mike and then well just go around, your name, your position.

This is just the greatest privilege of my life, Pence said, setting the tone for the others.

By August, Pence had mentioned Trumps broad shoulders 17 times, to proclaim his manly strength. At the cabinet meeting of 20 December 2017, Pence praised Trump 14 times in just under three minutes, a commendation every 12.5 seconds, concluding in his last breathless, fawning words: And we are making America great again. On 6 June 2018, at a meeting of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Trump suddenly and inexplicably put his water bottle on the floor. Without missing a beat, Pence, seated beside him, put his bottle on the floor too.

Finally, after 61 failed lawsuits challenging the presidential election, Trumps lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis told him there was a magic solution. Pence, presiding over the counting of the ballots of the electoral college before a joint session of Congress on 6 January, could overturn results in the key states that had gone against Trump, by deciding himself which votes to certify and which to reject. Rightwing social media was awash with rumors about the Pence card.

Pence sought the opinions of an array of conservative legal experts, who uniformly stated that he had no such authority. For days, Trump badgered him. On 4 January, campaigning in Georgia for Republican senatorial candidates, Trump said: If the liberal Democrats take the Senate and the White House, and theyre not going to take the White House, were going to fight like hell, I hope Mike Pence comes through for us, I have to tell you Hes a great guy. Of course, if he doesnt come through I wont like him quite as much Hes a wonderful man, a smart man and a man I like a lot.

On the day before the electoral college votes were to be certified, 5 January, Trump tweeted, The Vice-President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors. Hours later, Trump cornered Pence in the Oval Office. He had brought along a rightwing law professor, John Eastman, from Chapman University, who argued that Pence had the power to overturn the electoral college. Eastman had written an op-ed asserting that Kamala Harris was ineligible to run for vice-president because she was not a proper US citizen a new birtherism. Trump told Pence Eastman was very highly qualified. For once, Pence stood his ground. His reverence turned into recalcitrance. He rebuffed Trump. There was a line he would not cross.

That night, after the New York Times reported that Pence felt he would need to balance the presidents misguided beliefs about government with his own years of preaching deference to the constitution, Trump issued a statement: The New York Times report regarding comments Vice-President Pence supposedly made to me today is fake news. He never said that. The Vice-President and I are in total agreement that the Vice-President has the power to act.

Before dawn on 6 January, after it was clear the Republicans had lost both seats in Georgia and with them control of the Senate, Trump frantically engaged in a tweet storm.

States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!

Then Trump called Pence at the vice-presidential residence, the Naval Observatory, to deliver an ultimatum. You can either go down in history as a patriot, or you can go down in history as a pussy, Trump said. But Pence spurned him again. He hung up and got into his motorcade. As he drove to the Capitol, Trump mounted the platform at his Stop the Steal rally outside the White House, to address thousands of followers.

Trump knew Pence intended to perform his constitutionally prescribed duty to preside over the process that would seal Joe Bidens election. Pence had repeatedly told Trump that was what he would do. Trump had tried every means to dislodge him from his position, but Pence proved immovable. Trumps call that morning, threatening him as a pussy, was the last desperate gambit. Trump knew the string was played out.

But when he addressed the crowd he had assembled, Trump pretended he did not know what Pence was going to do. Stung by Pences emphatic refusal, he knew he was retailing a false narrative. He feigned that Pence had not yet made up his mind and that the entire decision now depended upon him. Trump built up the dramatic suspense, stoked the crowds anger and directed its fixation. Trump turned the entire crisis on to Pence.

Trump referred to Pence 13 times in his speech:

I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to re-certify and we become president and you are the happiest people. And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: Mike, that doesnt take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesnt, that will be a sad day for our country because youre sworn to uphold our constitution And Mike Pence, I hope youre going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. And if youre not, Im going to be very disappointed in you. I will tell you right now. Im not hearing good stories They want to re-certify. But the only way that can happen is if Mike Pence agrees to send it back. Mike Pence has to agree to send it back. So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do. And I hope he doesnt listen to the Rinos [Republicans In Name Only] and the stupid people that hes listening to

Targeting Pence, Trump urged his followers forward. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you dont fight like hell, youre not going to have a country any more So lets walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol.

Trump was well aware that the crowd contained violent elements. He knew it was not like one of the festive crowds that attended his campaign rallies, warmed up with singing and dancing. In his 1 October debate with Biden, Trump had given a shoutout to the white supremacist Proud Boys, calling out their name and giving them a slogan: Stand back and stand by. On 12 December, Proud Boys led thousands of paramilitary demonstrators to protest against the election result in Washington.

WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!! Trump tweeted that morning to greet them. That night, the Proud Boys roamed the streets, provoking fights. Four people were stabbed, one shot, a police officer assaulted and 33 people arrested. The Proud Boys leader, Enrique Tarrio, was later arrested for burning a Black Lives Matter banner at a historic Black church and charged with two counts of felony for illegal possession of high-capacity guns.

We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Dont let them take it away! Trump tweeted on 18 December. The next day he tweeted: Big protest on 6 January. Be there, will be wild!

Arriving at the Capitol that day, taking his place in the Senate chamber at 1pm, Pence issued a statement: It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.

Trump was just finishing speaking. The spearhead of the mob had already broken through the police perimeter on the west side of the Capitol. Just after 2pm, led by the Proud Boys and other paramilitary groups, the mob poured through smashed windows and doors and rushed into the corridors, chanting: Hang Mike Pence!

Once we found out Pence turned on us and that they had stolen the election, like, officially, the crowd went crazy. I mean, it became a mob, said one rioter, later arrested, in a video posted on YouTube. Another of those arrested texted: When we found out Pence fucked us, we all stormed the Capitol building and everyone forced entry and started breaking shit. It was a like a scene out of a movie.

But many of those assaulting the Capitol had already received Trumps tinfoil cue to focus on Pence. The FBI charging paper for one arrested rioter, an alleged QAnon militant, quoted a text message two weeks before the attack: Im there for the greatest celebration of all time after Pence leads the Senate flip!! OR IM THERE IF TRUMP TELLS US TO STORM THE FUKIN CAPITAL IMA DO THAT THEN! We dont want any trouble but they are not going to steal this election that I guarantee bro!!

Secret service agents hustled Pence out of the chamber. Wheres Mike Pence? chanted the mob, racing to locate him. They carried a noose, marked with his name. Pence was in an office only about 100ft away. A quick-thinking Capitol police officer steered the rampaging throng to chase him in the opposite direction. At 2.24pm, amid the mayhem, Trump tweeted: Mike Pence didnt have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!

Dozens of messages immediately appeared on Gab, a social media networking site favored by neo-Nazis and white supremacists, encouraging those inside the Capitol to capture Pence.

I heard at least three different rioters at the Capitol say that they hoped to find Vice-President Mike Pence and execute him by hanging him from a Capitol Hill tree as a traitor, reported Jim Bourg, the Reuters picture editor in Washington. It was a common line being repeated. Many more were just talking about how the VP should be executed.

At 3.55pm, Pence tweeted: The violence and destruction taking place at the US Capitol Must Stop and it Must Stop Now. Nearly five hours later, the Capitol had been cleared, the Senate reconvened and Pence stood at the dais. On the desk, a note had been left for him by the shirtless, horned fur-hatted, face-painted, self-proclaimed QAnon shaman, one Jacob Chansley.

Its only a matter of time, justice is coming, it read.

At 3.34am, in the early hours of 7 January, Pence affirmed that Joe Biden had won the election. Five people, including a Capitol police officer, would die as a result of the riot; 140 police were injured.

Throughout the pandemonium in the Capitol, Trump did not seek to discover whether Pence was safe. He did not call him. He was watching the insurrection on TV at the White House, excited and delighted, according to the Republican senator Ben Sasse, who told of accounts heard from aides who were with the president. Trump never did call Pence.

Ive known Mike Pence for ever, said a friend, Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma. Ive never seen Pence as angry He said, After all the things Ive done for [Trump].

On 8 January, Trump announced he would not attend the inauguration. Pence stated that he would be there, to see Biden take the oath of office.

On the mantle above the fireplace in his library at the vice-presidents residence, Pence placed a framed passage from the Bibles Book of Jeremiah.

For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

For Pence, the quotation from scripture was a complacent blessing from the gospel of prosperity. (He conveniently did not frame other passages from Jeremiah preceding and following his favorite citation: Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have. They are prophesying lies to you in my name. I have not sent them, declares the Lord You should put any maniac who acts like a prophet into the stocks and neck-irons.)

Pence did not know Gods plan for him. He was just certain that God had one in mind. Pence did not voice the prophesy. He was no prophet. He was not the oracle. But he knew that he had a divinely ordained destiny. He believed it would unfold with his heavenly ascent to the highest position, becoming president as reward for his faithful humility. He adhered to the evangelical notion of servant leadership, Marc Short, his chief of staff and a fellow evangelical, explained to the Atlantic. Pence modeled himself on Jesus washing his disciples feet, a model for evangelicals to follow in his example toward Trump: Whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave.

Servant leadership is biblical, Short said. Thats at the heart of it for Mike, and it comes across in his relationship with the president.

The political marriage of Pence and Trump was an alliance of opposites, a calibrated balancing act of the pious and the pitiless, the sacred and the profane, the bland Hoosier and the brash New Yorker, the lockstep partisan and the egotist. It was also a team of media celebrities, minor and major, the trusted voice from the heartland leading his true believers to the TV reality show confidence man.

Pence had risen to prominence as a conservative talkshow host in Indiana, His Mikeness, self-described as Rush Limbaugh on decaf, opening every show: Greetings across the amber waves of grain. When local Republicans urged him to run for Congress, his intimate adviser, his wife, Karen, whom he calls Mother, interpreted two hawks flying overhead as Gods sign. Pence served six undistinguished terms, ingratiated himself with the Koch brothers donor network as its servant, and the party elevated him to the Indiana governors chair. His principal accomplishment was to enact a bill discriminating against gay people, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which under widespread criticism and threats of boycott he essentially rescinded. He was uncertain of re-election; then Trump plucked him from obscurity. Another sign.

The relationship was set in stone at the beginning. The Access Hollywood tape was the formative event. Everything followed from Trumps risky business and Pences avid devotion. When the scandal broke, the Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, organized pressure on Trump to quit and Pence to assume his place, according to Pences biographer Tom LoBianco.

Donald Trump should withdraw and Mike Pence should be our nominee effective immediately, tweeted Senator John Thune, of South Dakota. Karen Pence was livid. But Pence refused to drink from the chalice he was offered, believing it to be poisoned. If he replaced Trump, he would be blamed for destroying him and the inevitable election defeat. Instead, he believed Trump would lose and he, Pence, would be ideally positioned to be the Republican nominee in 2020, to take on President Hillary Clinton. And when Trump survived and went on to win, Pence was the next in line.

Pence was not blind about Trump. Karen Pence confided to one of his aides: We knew we were signing up for something unique. We knew there would be times hed say and do things wed never do. We understood that Obviously, its disappointing, but it doesnt change the mission.

Trump was Pences cross to bear. Whether Pence respected him was beside the point. Trump only wanted to be worshipped. He obviously thought he had endless use of the simplistic Pence as his tool. But Pence knew that both he and Trump were tools of the Lord, though for different purposes. He wanted to create a worshipful presence for Trump, toward greater ends about which Trump was completely unknowing. Pence had been put into his position for the Lords purposes, in an unfolding divine story. He was right with the Lord. He was not only elected; he was among the elect. The Lord blessed his servant. The blessing was a promise of his ever-rising advancement so long as he was steadfast. He stayed the course no matter the tribulations and privations. His destiny had been written. He proved himself worthy by his steadfastness in bearing the desecrations of the unworthy Trump. Every further revelation of Trumps character confirmed that Pence was being tested for the time beyond Trump. Pence carried his cross for a glorious consummation for the most faithful of the Lords chosen, Mike Pence.

If Pence maintained his equanimity, he could keep moving forward. His voice was steady, his manner was steady and when a fly landed on his head in his debate with Kamala Harris, he was steady. He had practice with far greater distractions. This fly didnt do anything embarrassing, except land on his head. It was not the flys fault. Pence could bear everything.

But the more Pence succeeded in achieving his perfection of humility and show of gratitude, the more he persuaded the evangelicals it was Trump who was divinely anointed. Regardless of how Pence saw himself in his inner vision, through his ministrations the evangelicals came to see Trump as the one who made America right with the Lord. Pence made sure the credit went to his lord. He rendered unto Caesar.

Pence did not know that staying the course would be his undoing. His role as president of the Senate in presiding over the counting of the electoral college votes was largely ceremonial and passive. Pence believed he was true to the constitution under God. He had taken his oath on his Bible. His presence naturally lent the process legitimacy. For Trump, that was the problem. Pences faith created a schism not only with Trump, but also with his ambition.

Trump by his lights had not lost the election; it was stolen. Trump could never be a loser. He had won. He was being deprived of his victory. Pence alone could change it. If he did not, he explained Trumps failure. The fault was displaced on to Pence.

Pence bestowed on Trump the fatal kiss. Pence was the Judas. He did not ever imagine he was Judas, but always Gods servant. Judas knew he was betraying Jesus, but Pence never thought he was betraying Trump. Pence never knew that all along, this was part of Gods plan.

Upholding his oath, Pences hopes turned to ashes. He became something he never anticipated: the fall guy. He never expected he would be Trumps patsy. It was one thing to be his flunky, but Pence never thought, even after all the other adults in the room had departed in obloquy, hed be the last patsy standing.

Pence may consider himself one of the most unselfish Christians. The extreme case of humility is when a person gives his all to someone who is completely selfish and has no other purpose. Now loathed by evangelicals, Pence must console himself with the holy paradox invested in martyrs, in which the martyr scorned by his own people suffers for the greater good of the Lord. Only later is the martyr beatified as a saint. Becoming such a martyr might get Pence a stained-glass window in some future crystal cathedral, but it will not get him anywhere in the Republican party.

Pence is reportedly isolated, in a borrowed cabin in Indiana, having arranged to be a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

No evangelical leader has stepped forward to defend his honor. No Republican leader has vouched for his virtue, obligations and higher loyalty. Abandoned and alone, the object of hatred, the target of threats. Pence had taught his flock to worship its lord and cast out heretics. He delivered everything to Trump, and Trump delivered Pence to the mob as a scapegoat. Pence had shown them the way to follow Trump as a true servant. And they did.

Hang Mike Pence!

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The martyrdom of Mike Pence - The Guardian

On Jan. 6, 2021, President Donald Trump put Vice President Mike Pence in a no-win situation. He could nullify the election of Joe Biden, or he could fulfill his constitutional duty and a mob would come after him. The latter happened. Republican senators are in the same situation now. Either they acquit him of incitement, or they fulfill their constitutional duty and find him guilty and a mob of angry Republicans will ensure that they are voted out in the next primary election. Whether you believe that Trump incited an insurrection on Jan. 6 or not, Republican senators are in a no-win situation.

If they vote to convict Trump, they could find themselves in a primary challenge the next time they are up for election. If they vote to acquit Trump, they will anger the rest of the electorate except in a few states like Utah and could doom the Republican Party to a generation of irrelevancy.

What senators should do instead is what is right for America. If they vote to convict Trump, they will draw a line in the stand and let future presidents know the line should not be crossed. They should do what is right, even if they would get voted out in a party primary. Not only would this be good for the long-term health of the national Republican Party, but it might also be good for the United States.

It has been said that integrity is doing what is right when no one is looking. Integrity is also doing what is right even if the expedient consequences are not so good. Integrity is doing what is right, even if the choice is unpopular. Republican senators should have integrity.

Ben Hunt

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Letter: GOP senators are in the same predicament Pence was in on Jan. 6 - Deseret News

It seems that all white men of a certain age have a podcast (hosting data backs this up) and former vice president Mike Pence is now no exception. The Young America's Foundation announced on Friday that Pence, who is serving as the organization's Ronald Regan Presidential Scholar, plans to launch a video podcast "to share the good news of conservatism through one of today's most popular mediums."

Through the position, Pence will also publish a monthly op-ed, speak at conferences and embark upon a cross-country campus lecture series for the conservative group, which is known for bringing inflammatory anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim speakers to college campuses

"Now more than ever, we need to take the case for freedom, free markets, and traditional values to the rising generation and I look forward to working with the great YAF team to ensure the torch of freedom shines bright for generations to come," Pence said in a release.

Public details about the proposed podcast are still sparse, but stepping behind a microphone won't be entirely new for Pence. The former Indiana governor spent the '90s hosting "The Mike Pence Show," which positioned him as a relatively prominent Midwestern conservative radio personality a reputation upon which he built his eventual political career and 2000 election to Congress.

As Politico reported in 2016, "The Mike Pence" show dedicated a lot of time to Indiana news, some bashing of the Clintons and the "global warming myth," and at least a couple episodes railing against adultery.

"I mean, is adultery no longer a big deal in Indiana and in America? I'd just love to know your thoughts because I for one believe that the seventh commandment contained in the Ten Commandments is still a big deal," Pence said.

He continued:"I maintain that other than promises that we make of fidelity in our faith, the promises that we make to our spouses and to our children, the promises that we make in churches and in synagogues and marriage ceremonies around this, it's the most important promise you'll ever make. And holding people accountable to those promises and holding people accountable to respecting the promises that other people make, I, to me, what could possibly be a bigger deal than that in this country?"

It should be noted that, obviously, Pence's hardline stance on accountability for adulterous politicians didn't extend to former president Donald Trump, who, throughout his presidency, was accused of making hush payments to at least two women adult film star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal with whom he allegedly had affairs.

According to a Monday Associated Press report, former Trump attorney-turned-critic Michael Cohen interviewed Daniels in the latest episode of his own podcast, "Mea Culpa," in which he apologized for "the needless pain" he put Daniels through when he arranged a $130,000 payment during the 2016 presidential campaign to keep her quiet about an alleged dalliance with Trump a decade earlier.

However, Pence's silence surrounding Trump's behavior only got him so far. His relationship with Trump became publicly strained following his certification of Joe Biden's election in the Senate and the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, during which rioters erected gallows and chanted "Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!"

As Politico reports, Pence's podcast as well as his larger role with the Young America Foundation could be viewed as "an effort to smooth his transition back into the upper ranks of the conservative movement" as he reportedly weighs a book deal and a future presidential bid of his own in 2024.

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Mike Pence is starting a podcast ... because of course he is - Salon