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ANDY LEVY (HOST): Last Friday, Donald Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, announced he would not be endorsing his old boss in 2024. Pence said this during a live interview with Martha MacCallum on Fox News, but since then, the network has barely mentioned it.Here to discuss is Media Matters senior fellow, Matt Gertz. Matt, thanks so much for being here.

MATT GERTZ (MEDIA MATTERS): Thanks for having me back.

LEVY: Let's start with numbers. How much airtime did Fox give to letting its viewers know about what Pence said? And then, I guess, compare that to CNN and MSNBC.

GERTZ: Sure. So, Fox News gave it four minutes of airtime. CNN gave an hour, 19, and MSNBC clocked in at an hour and 14 minutes. A tiny, tiny fraction of what the other networks provided. Just to stress this, Mike Pence made this statement that he would not endorse Donald Trump during an interview on Fox News.It was their exclusive that they were burying. They made the news and decided that their viewers didn't need to hear it.

LEVY: Yeah. I guess, at the risk of being super obvious, explain why this matters.

GERTZ: I think it's pretty clear that the reason Fox News decided not to cover this story is because they believe it is bad news for Donald Trump.If you think of Fox News as a conservative network, as a network that has deep principles that it is espousing, this is the sort of thing that would make no sense. Right?I mean, Mike Pence, longtime conservative leader, someone that Fox News liked quite a lot for years, but here he is saying that Donald Trump, the person under whom he served in the White House for four years, will not have his support in the election.

You could imagine different people at Fox having different reactions to that, in which some of them might agree with him, some of them might disagree with him, but instead, largely what happened is the whole thing got swept under the rug.And I think the reason for that is that Fox News is not, in fact, a conservative network. It does not have an ideologically conservative position and angle on the news. It is a Trumpian propaganda outlet. It is an outlet that thinks first and foremost about how the news would impact the political efforts of Donald Trump and the Republicans who support him.And viewed from that angle, covering Mike Pence would be a betrayal of Donald Trump and the Republican Party, and so they decided not to mention it virtually at all.

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On The New Abnormal, Matt Gertz explains why the Pence story got swept under the rug: Fox News is a "Trumpian ... - Media Matters for America

The threat from President Donald J. Trump to his vice president, Mike Pence, was clear and direct: If you defy my effort to overturn the 2020 election by certifying the results, your future in Republican politics is over.

Mike, this is a political career killer if you do this, Mr. Trump told Mr. Pence by phone on the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, according to the White House valet who was with the president for much of the day and told Congress he had overheard the conversation.

The testimony of Mr. Trumps valet, provided to the now-defunct House Jan. 6 Committee in 2022 but not previously released publicly, offers a rare firsthand look into the former presidents behavior in the hours before, during and after a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol seeking to halt the certification of President Bidens victory.

In the valets account, laid out in a transcript obtained by The New York Times, an agitated Mr. Trump pressured Mr. Pence to overturn the election and stewed about Mr. Pences refusal for hours after violence engulfed Congress. Told that a civilian had been shot outside the House chamber amid the mob attack, he recalled, Mr. Trump appeared unconcerned.

I just remember seeing it in front of him, the valet said of a note card Mr. Trump was given bearing news of the casualty as he watched the riot unfold on television. I dont remember how it got there or whatever. But there was no, like, reaction.

As unflattering as portions of the aides testimony were to Mr. Trump, he did not confirm some of the more graphic and damning claims made by witnesses in front of the Jan. 6 committee.

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On March 15, former Vice President Mike Pence dropped quite the bombshell to Martha MacCallum on Fox News: He would not be endorsing his former running mate Donald Trump to be president.

Despite getting the scoop, Fox News gave the news just four minutes of coverage, according to Matt Gertz, senior fellow at Media Matters for America. That compares to CNN, which gave the story an hour and 19 minutes, and MSNBC, which spent an hour and 14 minutes covering the story.

It was their exclusive that they were burying, Gertz told The New Abnormal co-host Andy Levy. They made the news and decided that their viewers didnt need to hear it.

I think the reason for that is that Fox News is not, in fact, a conservative network. It does not have an ideologically conservative position on the news. It is a Trumpian propaganda outlet, Gertz said. It is an outlet that thinks first and foremost about how the news would impact the political efforts of Donald Trump and the Republicans who support him, and viewed from that angle covering Mike Pence would be a betrayal of Donald Trump and the Republican Party. And so they decided not to mention it virtually at all.

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Mike Pence said something that was inconvenient, he said something that could have led some Fox viewers to act against Donald Trump, and so this was a story that they had to keep from their audience, Gertz said.

In his interview with MacCallum on Fox News, Pence said his decision not to endorse Trump was not just because of what happened on Jan. 6, but because he was pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years.

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Fox News Buried Its Own Mike Pence Story to Benefit Trump - The Daily Beast

A conservative group opposed to Donald Trumps 2024 White House bid has decided to taunt the former president with a video that praises his onetime vice president, Mike Pence.

The secondslong video, released Friday by Republican Voters Against Trump, is titled Mike Pence Is Putting Country Over Party.

It shows footage of Pences recent Fox News interview where he declined to endorse Trump this time around. The ad ends with the tagline Mike Pence is putting country over party, and we will too.

The video will play digitally for one week in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and be accompanied by billboards in cities like Phoenix, Atlanta, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee.

You can see the ad below:

Based on early reactions, the video is making an impact.

Although Pence dutifully supported Trump during his presidency, their relationship fell apart after the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection because Pence refused to block the certification of votes for the 2020 election winner, Joe Biden.

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The fact that Trump didnt disavow Jan. 6 rioters chants of hang Mike Pence may have been a factor as well.

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Republican Group's Ad Taunts Donald Trump By Noting Mike Pence Put 'Country Over Party' - Yahoo Singapore News

Donald Trumps own former vice president, Mike Pence, says theres no way he could endorse him.

Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, who endorsed Trumps re-election bid weeks ago, suggests Pence doesnt have it right.

I think that West Virginians, amazingly in large, large numbers support President Trump so I support the policies of President Trump and I support him, Capito, R-W.Va., said during a media briefing this past week in response to a MetroNews question.

Much of West Virginias Republican-dominated political environment has become a matter of who supports Trump the most. In the 2020 election, Trump dominated West Virginias vote by 38.9 points. That was down slightly from the 2016 margin in West Virginia, 42.1 points.

Trump is now cruising toward a rematch with current President Joe Biden, a Democrat, in the 2024 General Election.

Several key members of Trumps own administration, though, are not supporting his re-election. Those include former Attorney General William Barr, former Defense Secretary James Mattis, another Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Joint Chiefs Secretary Mark Milley, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, former national security advisers HR McMaster and John Bolton, chiefs of staff John Kelly and Mick Mulvaney and more.

The most prominent is Pence, who served at Trumps side as vice president for four years. Pence, on Jan. 6, 2021, determined that the constitution called for the vice president to certify the presidential election results. Supporters of Trump chanted hang Mike Pence, constructed a gallows outside, rushed into the Capitol and caused the evacuations of the vice president and Congress.

At 2:24 p.m. that day, Trump tweeted Mike Pence didnt have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!

In national news interviews last week, Pence said the break with Trump over the events of Jan. 6 is just one reason he cant endorse him.

I said it during my presidential campaign, the president and I have profound differences, and many people think its just over Jan. 6. And, frankly, the fact that the president continues to insist that, that I had the right to overturn the election that day is a fundamental difference, Pence said last week on Face the Nation.

But I want to be clear that, you know, Ive forgiven the president in my heart for what happened that day. As a Christian, Im required to do that, Ive prayed for him in that regard. But the issue of fealty to the Constitution is not a small matter but its not just that.

Pence, who described pride in the conservative record of the 2017-21 administration, said I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump this year.

The former vice president in a Fox News interview elaborated on additional reasons.

I mean, as I have watched his candidacy unfold, Ive seen him walking away from our commitment to confronting the national debt. Ive seen him starting to shy away from a commitment to the sanctity of human life, Pence said, also describing a Trump reversal on getting tough on China and supporting our administrations effort to force the sale of the popular TikTok app.

In each of these cases, Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. And thats why I cannot in conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign, he said.

Capitos Republican roots go deep. She was first elected to Congress in 2001, when George W. Bush was elected president. Her father, Arch Moore, was a three-term Republican governor of West Virginia. Her son, Moore Capito, is running in the Republican primary for governor now.

On the issue of Trump who is the once and current Republican standard bearer Capito parts ways with Pence.

Well, I think you know, the lens with which I have endorsed Donald Trump are the policies that he put forward, she said at her briefing last week.

Border policies, where the numbers at the border were amazingly low with his remain in Mexico policy, his Title 42 policies, his quick turnaround on asylum, more of a no-tolerance approach with physical and technological barriers like drones and other things of that nature. Thats obviously a high priority for the president. Thats the number one issue in this country, and I notice in the ones that you mentioned, Vice President Pence does not mention those things.

Capito, last month, took part in rejecting a funding package that included a range of restrictive border measures.

Capito said her endorsement of Trump also takes into account economic factors.

We see food, gasoline, everything inflationary, large price increases hurting the middle class. That didnt happen under the Trump administration, Capito said. We passed a big tax relief bill that everybody felt, and I think the job growth that we saw before covid was an amazing signal of the strength of the American economy under his policies.

So Im going with the policies here.

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