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House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy says former President Donald Trump may consider taking on a different governmental role if Republicans reclaim the House in 2022.

McCarthy, who is often considered as a front-runner for the speakership if the GOP wins back the lower chamber in next year's midterm elections, says the former president has said that he wants to succeed Speaker Nancy Pelosi, although the California Republican is pushing him to run for his old job.

"You know, I've talked to President Trump many times. He tells me he wants to be speaker, and I think he should be president," McCarthy told Fox News's Brian Kilmeade on Friday.

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Though Trump has frequently teased a 2024 presidential bid, some recent reports have suggested that he may instead vie to become speaker of the House, a position that need not be held by a member of Congress, according to the Constitution. The former president has called the suggestion "very interesting."

"You know, it's very interesting," Trump said when conservative commentator Wayne Allyn Root pitched the idea.

McCarthy also defended another potential 2024 contender, former Vice President Mike Pence, from charges from the Right that he betrayed Trump by certifying President Joe Biden's victory on Jan. 6.

"Mike Pence is not a traitor," he said. "I just saw Mike Pence last week. Mike Pence served as, not only as a member of Congress which I served with him, one of the most conservative members. He was the governor of Indiana, and he was the vice president who stood right by President Trump, [who] helped him get through the tax reform [and] get those judges in presiding over the Senate as well. Mike Pence deserves a lot of credit."

On Friday, Pence was taunted as a "traitor" when he took the stage at the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference in Orlando, Florida.

"It is great to be back with so many patriots dedicated to faith and freedom and the road to the majority," Pence said as he took the stage.

Moments later, a woman could be heard shouting "traitor," while others yelled "boo" as the crowd erupted during his remarks.

Though Trump and Pence enjoyed a close relationship during their term in office, with Pence shepherding through much of Trump's preferred policies in his role as president of the Senate, the latter acknowledged that the pair might never "see eye to eye on" the events of Jan. 6. While Trump said Pence lacked the "courage" to overturn the 2020 election results, Pence, who affirmed Biden's victory after a mob overtook the Capitol in an attempt to delay the certification, expressed a different view of the day's events.

"Jan. 6 was a dark day in the history of the United States Capitol. But thanks to the swift action of the Capitol Police and federal law enforcement, violence was quelled. The Capitol was secured. And that same day, we reconvened the Congress and did our duty under the Constitution and the laws of the United States. President Trump and I have spoken many times since we left office and I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day," Pence said.

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While Trump has kept a relatively low profile since leaving office, he has endorsed several political candidates ahead of the midterm elections, and he is expected to resume rallies in swing states such as Florida, Georgia, and Ohio.

"Relatively soon, we'll be doing one in Florida. We're gonna do one in Ohio. We're gonna do one in Georgia. We're gonna do one in North Carolina," he told One America News last month. "We'll be announcing them very soon over the next week or two, and I think we'll probably start in Florida and Ohio, and we'll be announcing the rallies very shortly."

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Former Vice President Mike Pence lauded his and former President Donald Trumps administration in a speech Thursday, but he said the two may never "see eye to eye"about the Jan. 6 insurrection.

To a crowd of Republicans in Hillsborough County, New Hampshire, Pence called the Capitol riot a dark day in American history. The attack saw thousands of pro-Trump supporters storm the U.S. Capitol and left five people dead.

President Trump and I have spoken many times since we left office, Pence said. I dont know if well ever see eye to eye on that day. But I will always be proud of what we accomplished for the American people for the last four years.

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Trump insisted Pence had the power to block congressional certification of Joe Bidens presidential election win in November. Pence repeatedlydenied the false claims, saying only lawmakers can decide whether to accept the Electoral College votes won byBiden.

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During the riots, chants to hang Mike Pence and bring out Pence erupted in the crowd, according to video shown during Trumps second impeachment trial.

But Pence on Thursday immediately cast blame on Democrats and news media for what he called an outsized scrutiny over the day.

I will not allow Democrats and their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of Americans, he said.

Thirty-five House Republicans,including Indiana Rep. Trey Hollingsworth, voted in favor of a bipartisancommission to study the insurrection, butSenate Republicans blocked the commissioneffort last week. Neither Indiana senator voted in favor of the commission.

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Late on Wednesday night, super lawyer, Lin Wood released the full transcripts of interviews conducted with a government whistleblower using the alias Ryan Dark White, with many hair-raising allegations about former Vice President Mike Pence, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and former Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, who he says were all working together to overthrow President Trump from the very beginning of his administration.

The interviews were conducted in early January of this year. On January 18th, Lin Wood had posted video of these interviews, in 8 parts, which I strung together and uploaded to Rumble and published for my subscribers on Inauguration Day.

Some of the highlights of this full transcript include the following shocking revelations:

Chief Justice John Roberts is gay and highly-controlled to keep that a secret. Roberts adopted his children illegally with the help of Jeffrey Epstein through a child sex trafficking network in the British Isles and he immediately proceeded to use his adopted children to sexually entrap and blackmail powerful people.

Mr White also says Roberts helped with some logistics in an FBI false flag operation to kill several Supreme Court Justices during Hillary Clintons first term, so that she could then pack the Supreme Court with Globalists/Communists.

This plot was foiled when Mr White (aka @JohnHereToHelp on Twitter) was hired by someone at the office of the Supreme Court to infiltrate the operation. However, those trained and armed by the FBI to commit mass-murder fell back to a Plan B, to execute Justice Anton Scalia, who was considered Hillarys greatest threat.

Mike Pence is gay and likewise controlled. Prior to becoming Vice President, Pence had two steady lovers who were significantly younger but then he got framed into having sex with a 13-year-old on video. Pences wife is totally aware of this and helps him manage and schedule his trysts.

Mike Pence hated Trump and he worked together with Rod Rosenstein, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney as their mole in the White House. The idea was to get rid of Trump by using the 25th Amendment, then for Pence to become President and for Rod Rosenstein to become Vice President. In other words, Rod Rosenstein was not joking when he talked about wearing a wire to frame Trump. In fact, White says he did wear a wire more than once, attempting to do just that, to no avail.

Judge Emmet Sullivan, the Federal Judge presiding over the case of General Mike Flynn is an anti-Black racist and a violent incestuous pedophile, who raped his own granddaughter for years until she was no longer a child and he lost interest. Sullivan once injured her so horribly that she was hospitalized and he made his son (the girls father) turn himself in for the crime in the state of Maryland.

As a Federal Judge, he was able to bury the case with the help of then-US Attorney Rod Rosenstein, Maryland Congressman, Elijah Cummings and Baltimore Mayor, Catherine Pugh. However, records of the case still exist in the Federal system. Mr White says it can be found on Pacer.

Sullivans son is also a very sick pedophile who also raped that same daughter for years and he was later busted again for trading images of child pornography.

Judge Sullivan had 4 homes in a beach community in Delaware that he used for his trysts with female children and that he would lend out to Joe Biden, for his own pedophilic trysts.

Mr White describes Joe Biden as a well-known pedophile and he says that in many of those videos weve all seen of Biden sniffing children in front of their family members as theyre being sworn-into their government posts, those children have been promised to him for his role in the securing those positions for their parents. White said, Joe cant control himself because hes anticipating his payoff. So, thats why you see these sniffing videos.

Moreover, Jill Biden knew about his perversions going into the marriage. Indeed, she was 15 and Joe was 30 when they began dating. White says the Biden grandchildren are all sexual abuse victims, as well.

Space economist, Molly McCauley was murdered by the same crooked DEA henchmen associated with Rod Rosensteins Dirty Tricks Squad according to White, because it was she who figured out that they were using satellites to steal elections, using the Hammer supercomputer with Scorecard and Sunrise software. Rod Rosenstein was heavily involved with the Hammer program.

What really happened to Seth Rich. I had suspected that White was the whistleblower who came forward on the 2-year anniversary of Seth Richs murder, in July of 2018, when Matt Couch and a Republican lobbyist, Mark Burkman set up a press conference to introduce him as a new witness in the Seth Rich murder case. At that time, he was called Luke and he phoned into the event, to protect his identity.

It was clear to me that this Luke from the 2018 Seth Rich press conference was the same person as Ryan Dark White, as well as the same person who is known on Twitter as @JohnHeretoHelp and this was confirmed in the transcript.

Despite his many different aliases, White has consistently described himself as an intelligence veteran, a terrorism consultant and expert witness for the US Attorneys Office in Maryland but the July 2018 event was fraught with technical problems, which made it come off as very amateurish and it was widely derided by people on both the Left and the Right.

Whites account of the Seth Rich murder was very non-partisan at a time when everyone on the Right was convinced that Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC.

White alleged that Rod Rosenstein was behind the murder. Seths DNC email breach would reveal Rosensteins operation with the DOJs (and the Republicans) to tamper and alter the DNCs emails throughout the course of the Obama Administration.And it would also reveal that they began spying on Hillarys private server, almost as soon as it went live.

Back in 2018, it was hard to imagine this level of corruption and it went over most peoples heads but after everything weve seen, especially since the 2020 Election, it makes a lot more sense.

What we learn about the Seth Rich murder with Lin Woods release of the full transcript is that it wasnt intended to be a murder and it really was a botched robbery, as claimed.

The MS-13 gang members who were hired and transported to DC from out-of-state by Rosensteins DEA henchmen, they were contracted to steal Seth Richs thumb drive containing the DNC server data and to replace it with another thumb drive that had all of the incriminating data pointing back to Rosenstein and the DOJ removed.

For years, weve heard rumors that Donna Brazile was at the hospital where Seth was taken and White confirms this in the full transcript. I specifically remember a Reddit post about a week after Seths death in 2016 from a male nurse working at the hospital where Seth had been taken, saying that Brazile showed up at the hospital that night and that Seths room was cordoned off and he was denied treatment.

White says that Donna Brazile and her girlfriend, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser were waiting at the hospital before Seth was even brought in, and they also had people at the crime scene, in order to recover the thumb drive, which everybody knew Seth always kept on his person.

Rod Rosensteins hitmen had to quickly replace Seths thumb drive with his sanitized version before the DNC people could get to it and it looks like in the tussle to do that, Seth was killed.

I was on Making Sense of the Madness last night with John Chambers and James Grundvig to discuss all of this and more.

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Former Vice President Mike Pence said Thursday that he wasn't sure that he and former President Donald Trump would ever see "eye to eye" over what happened on Jan. 6 but that he would "always be proud of what we accomplished for the American people over the last four years."Pence, speaking at a Republican dinner in the early-voting state of New Hampshire, gave his most extensive comments to date on the events of Jan. 6, when angry Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, some chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" after the vice president said he did not have the power to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's election victory."As I said that day, Jan. 6 was a dark day in history of the United States Capitol. But thanks to the swift action of the Capitol Police and federal law enforcement, violence was quelled. The Capitol was secured," Pence said."And that same day, we reconvened the Congress and did our duty under the Constitution and the laws of the United States," Pence continued. "You know, President Trump and I have spoken many times since we left office. And I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day."It was a rare departure for Pence, who spent four years standing loyally beside his boss amid controversy, investigation and impeachment. It comes as Pence considers his own potential 2024 White House run and as Republicans, some of whom were angry at Trump in the days after the Jan. 6 insurrection, have largely coalesced back around the former president.Pence praised Trump several times during his nearly 35-minute speech at the Hillsborough County Republican Committee's annual Lincoln-Reagan Awards Dinner in Manchester. He tried to turn the events of Jan. 6 back around on Democrats, saying they wanted to keep the insurrection in the news to divert attention from Biden's liberal agenda."I will not allow Democrats or their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of Americans. Or allow Democrats or their allies in the media to distract our attention from a new administration intent on dividing our country to advance their radical agenda," Pence said. "My fellow Republicans, for our country, for our future, for our children and our grandchildren, we must move forward, united."He accused Biden of campaigning as a moderate but becoming the most liberal president since Franklin D. Roosevelt. He said the administration forced through Congress "a COVID bill to fund massive expansion of the welfare state" and was pushing a "so-called infrastructure bill" that was really a "thinly disguised climate change bill" funded with cuts in the military and historic tax increases."I just say enough is enough," he said, adding that "we're going to stand strong for freedom."Pence also hit upon several favorite themes of conservative Republicans, emphasizing the need for states to shore up voter integrity around the country. He praised law enforcement as heroes, saying: "Black lives are not endangered by police. Black lives are saved by police every day."He also pushed back against "critical race theory," which seeks to reframe the narrative of American history.Its proponents argue that federal law has preserved the unequal treatment of people on the basis of race and that the country was founded on the theft of land and labor. But Republicans have said concepts suggesting that people are inherently racist or that America was founded on racial oppression are divisive and have no place in the classroom."America is not a racist country," he said, prompting one of several standing ovations and cheers during his speech."It is past time for America to discard the left-wing myth of systemic racism," Pence said. "I commend state legislators and governors across the country for banning critical race theory from our schools."His choice of states, including an April appearance in South Carolina, is aimed at increasing his visibility as he considers whether to run for the White House in 2024.Trump is increasingly acting and talking like he plans to make a run as he sets out on a more public phase of his post-presidency, beginning with a speech on Saturday in North Carolina.Since leaving office in January, Pence has been doing work with the Heritage Foundation and Young America's Foundation. His team said he plans more trips, including stops in Texas, California and Michigan.Along with his visits to South Carolina and New Hampshire, Pence has been hitting the fundraising circuit. He is set to speak next week at another fundraiser hosted by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, will travel to North Carolina for a Heritage Foundation donor event, and will then head to California, where he will take part in the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute's speakers' series, a Republican National Committee donor retreat and a Young America's Foundation event, according to aides.Among other prominent Republicans, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said in April that she would stand down if Trump decided to run in 2024. Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has undertaken an aggressive schedule, visiting states that will play a pivotal role in the 2024 primaries and signing a contract with Fox News Channel.See the full keynote speech below:

Former Vice President Mike Pence said Thursday that he wasn't sure that he and former President Donald Trump would ever see "eye to eye" over what happened on Jan. 6 but that he would "always be proud of what we accomplished for the American people over the last four years."

Pence, speaking at a Republican dinner in the early-voting state of New Hampshire, gave his most extensive comments to date on the events of Jan. 6, when angry Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, some chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" after the vice president said he did not have the power to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's election victory.

"As I said that day, Jan. 6 was a dark day in history of the United States Capitol. But thanks to the swift action of the Capitol Police and federal law enforcement, violence was quelled. The Capitol was secured," Pence said.

"And that same day, we reconvened the Congress and did our duty under the Constitution and the laws of the United States," Pence continued. "You know, President Trump and I have spoken many times since we left office. And I don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day."

It was a rare departure for Pence, who spent four years standing loyally beside his boss amid controversy, investigation and impeachment. It comes as Pence considers his own potential 2024 White House run and as Republicans, some of whom were angry at Trump in the days after the Jan. 6 insurrection, have largely coalesced back around the former president.

Pence praised Trump several times during his nearly 35-minute speech at the Hillsborough County Republican Committee's annual Lincoln-Reagan Awards Dinner in Manchester. He tried to turn the events of Jan. 6 back around on Democrats, saying they wanted to keep the insurrection in the news to divert attention from Biden's liberal agenda.

"I will not allow Democrats or their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of Americans. Or allow Democrats or their allies in the media to distract our attention from a new administration intent on dividing our country to advance their radical agenda," Pence said. "My fellow Republicans, for our country, for our future, for our children and our grandchildren, we must move forward, united."

He accused Biden of campaigning as a moderate but becoming the most liberal president since Franklin D. Roosevelt. He said the administration forced through Congress "a COVID bill to fund massive expansion of the welfare state" and was pushing a "so-called infrastructure bill" that was really a "thinly disguised climate change bill" funded with cuts in the military and historic tax increases.

"I just say enough is enough," he said, adding that "we're going to stand strong for freedom."

Pence also hit upon several favorite themes of conservative Republicans, emphasizing the need for states to shore up voter integrity around the country. He praised law enforcement as heroes, saying: "Black lives are not endangered by police. Black lives are saved by police every day."

He also pushed back against "critical race theory," which seeks to reframe the narrative of American history.

Its proponents argue that federal law has preserved the unequal treatment of people on the basis of race and that the country was founded on the theft of land and labor. But Republicans have said concepts suggesting that people are inherently racist or that America was founded on racial oppression are divisive and have no place in the classroom.

"America is not a racist country," he said, prompting one of several standing ovations and cheers during his speech.

"It is past time for America to discard the left-wing myth of systemic racism," Pence said. "I commend state legislators and governors across the country for banning critical race theory from our schools."

His choice of states, including an April appearance in South Carolina, is aimed at increasing his visibility as he considers whether to run for the White House in 2024.

Trump is increasingly acting and talking like he plans to make a run as he sets out on a more public phase of his post-presidency, beginning with a speech on Saturday in North Carolina.

Since leaving office in January, Pence has been doing work with the Heritage Foundation and Young America's Foundation. His team said he plans more trips, including stops in Texas, California and Michigan.

Along with his visits to South Carolina and New Hampshire, Pence has been hitting the fundraising circuit. He is set to speak next week at another fundraiser hosted by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, will travel to North Carolina for a Heritage Foundation donor event, and will then head to California, where he will take part in the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute's speakers' series, a Republican National Committee donor retreat and a Young America's Foundation event, according to aides.

Among other prominent Republicans, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said in April that she would stand down if Trump decided to run in 2024. Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has undertaken an aggressive schedule, visiting states that will play a pivotal role in the 2024 primaries and signing a contract with Fox News Channel.

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Former President Donald Trump won't commit to making former Vice President Mike Pence his running mate again, as he teases another run in 2024.

Trump said he has a very good relationship with his former No. 2, despite the differences they had about Pence's refusal to object to the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6 that certified President Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election. However, he has not decided if Pence will run with him again.

The former president's comments followed a speech he made at a GOP donor dinner in North Carolina on Saturday night, where he endorsed Rep. Ted Budd for Senate in what's expected to be one of the more competitive races ahead of the 2022 midterm elections.

"I don't know, it's really too soon to tell," Trump told Fox News on the possibility that Pence could be his running mate. "But certainly, we had a very good relationship. I was disappointed with Mike on one thing as he understands and some other people understand, but overall, I had a very good relationship with Mike, and he's a very fine person and a fine man."

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Last week, Pence also floated rumors that he would make his own presidential run in 2024, highlighting his relationship with Trump in a speech he gave in New Hampshire.

The former vice president said he and Trump have spoken "many times" since they left office, though he asserted the two will likely never see "eye to eye" on the events of Jan. 6 that ended in a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Trump, 74, has not yet made a decision on a 2024 run but hinted that he may soon make an announcement on the endeavor.

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"I'll make a decision in the not-too-distant future, maybe sooner than people think. And I think they're going to be very happy," he said.

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