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Republicans Display a Mix of Defense and Alarm on Trump Allegations – The Atlantic

Updated on May 15, 2017 at 7:45 p.m.

After a report surfaced on Monday that President Trump shared classified information with Russian officials during an Oval Office meeting last week, some Senate Republicans initially rushed to defend the president, while other GOP lawmakers, as well as congressional Democrats, expressed alarm.

Its no longer classified the minute he utters it, Republican Senator Jim Risch said, according to Talking Points Memos Alice Ollstein. Risch reportedly noted that the president has the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process. Republican Senator John McCain initially took a similar tack. We certainly dont want any president to leak classified information, but the president does have the right to do that, he said, according to the Associated Presss Erica Werner. On Twitter, however, McCain shared the report later in the evening and wrote: If true, deeply disturbing.

In the House, a spokesman for Republican Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters: We have no way to know what was said, but protecting our nations secrets is paramount. The speaker hopes for a full explanation of the facts from the administration.

The incident marks the second time in less than a week that congressional Republicans have had to scramble to respond to an immediately controversial move by the president. Last Tuesday, the administration sent shockwaves through official Washington with the news that the president had abruptly fired FBI Director James Comey.

A report in The Washington Post on Monday stated that President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trumps disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

Administration officials quickly pushed back on the allegations. The story that came out tonight, as reported, is false, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster said in a carefully worded statement that did not wade deeply into the substance of the allegations. The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, he said. At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.

However, The New York Times and BuzzFeed posted stories Monday evening that appeared to confirm the Posts reporting that the president shared highly classified information with Russian officials.

In stark contrast to the immediate reactions of some of his colleagues, Republican Senator Bob Corker reportedly expressed concern over the report.

The White House has got to do something soon to bring itself under control and in order. Its going to happen, Corker said, per Bloombergs Sahil Kapur. Obviously theyre in a downward spiral right now and theyve got to figure out a way to come to grips w[ith] all thats happening.

On Monday, congressional Democrats harshly criticized the Post report, with some arguing that if the allegations prove to be true, the president put national security at risk.

If true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community, tweeted Senator Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is currently investigating alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, including potential ties between Trump associates and Russia. Risking sources & methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians.

Senator Bernie Sanders, who remains an Independent but is a member of Senate Democratic leadership, called Trumps reported actions reckless and dangerous. In a statement, the senator said: Protecting our national security is one of the most important tasks a president has, and Trump is failing at it.

Democratic Senator Kamala Harris of California said on Twitter that if true, this is a serious threat to national security.

House Democrats Elijah Cummings, the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, and John Conyers, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, released a joint statement arguing that Republicans and Democrats in the House of Representatives need a briefing from the national security adviser and the directors of our nations intelligence agencies to get to the bottom of these allegations. The congressmen added that if audio recordings exist of the meeting, Congress needs to obtain them immediately.

Some Republican lawmakers appeared unprepared to respond. I havent seen the story, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said, according to Politicos Burgess Everett. Sometimes this stuff is breaking faster than our ability to check online.

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Republicans wary of Cornyn as FBI chief – Politico

Senate Republicans love John Cornyn. But not all of them are sold on him being the next FBI director.

Its nothing personal toward the affable Senate majority whip from Texas, who has built up loyalty during his years in the Senate, particularly as a two-term chairman of the GOPs campaign arm and a high-ranking member of leadership. But with Trump's sacking of James Comey still reverberating on Capitol Hill, some Republicans want to make sure that the next FBI director is highly credentialed, unimpeachable and completely apolitical.

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Other GOP lawmakers are confident Cornyn would leave his partisan biases at the Senate exit if he's offered the job and accepts.

The debate over the No. 2 Senate Republican potentially succeeding Comey he is reportedly high on the list of contenders for the post has divided the GOP conference in a way that didnt occur earlier this year, when former colleagues were elevated to other high-ranking national security roles.

In this particular case, theyve got to go beyond expectations and appoint someone who, coming in would know absolutely with every cell of their body this person was going to be someone who ran the FBI in a nonpartisan way, said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who stressed that he was talking about no particular candidate.

Corker said the nominee "absolutely" must have bipartisan support, owing to the traditions of near consensus support for new directors.

To have an FBI director at this point who doesnt get Democratic votes would be a huge, huge mistake," Corker added.

Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) called Cornyn an excellent choice to lead the FBI, but added that whether to install someone with a history of partisan politics in that role is the question of the day for many folks.

Frankly, I think theres a case to be made that you want the most qualified person who can handle the issues and lead us in the direction we need to go, Scott said Monday. That doesnt eliminate partisan folks but theres no question that the country seems to be, I think would find more confidence and credibility in someone whos probably not involved in partisan politics right now.

Thats a question that may soon face Senate Republicans if Trump does select the 65-year-old former state attorney general to take over for Comey. The White Houses rationale for firing Comey shifted during the course of last week, with Trump calling the former FBI chief a showboat and referencing Comeys investigations into his campaigns potential collusion with Moscow as he defended sacking him.

Cornyn was among the slate of candidates who interviewed for the job at the Justice Department on Saturday. On Monday, the normally chatty Texas Republican was mum on the possible new gig.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday that "under normal circumstances," Cornyn would make a great FBI chief. But these are not normal circumstances," Graham said.

Asked about those comments, Cornyn responded: Im probably not going to weigh in on that right now.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) stressed that she thought very highly of Cornyn but preferred former Rep. Mike Rogers of Michigan, an ex-FBI agent who previously led the House Intelligence Committee. And Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who had previously floated former Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) to take over for Comey, also tossed out Fran Townsend, the former homeland security adviser for President George W. Bush.

John Cornyn is highly qualified. Id also put in a plug for Fran Townsend," McCain said. Cornyn is fine, hes a great leader. But I think it might be kind of interesting and very important to have the first woman director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation."

But plenty of Cornyns other colleagues closed ranks behind him on Monday.

I dont have any concern, said Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who sits on the Judiciary Committee and will help vet the new FBI director candidate. If you eliminate a lot of the highly qualified people who are politicians, I think thats a disservice to the administration.

Added Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): I think politicians are capable and John Cornyns particularly capable.

Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Thune of South Dakota, whod be the early favorite for majority whip should Cornyn exit the Senate, said he was a big fan of Cornyn and called him supremely qualified, obviously, from a law enforcement standpoint.

But on whether he had concerns about a politician taking over the traditionally nonpartisan role, Thune responded: Not my decision to make. Ultimately, its the presidents decision.

Cornyn and the rest of the GOP leadership team is term-limited after next year, so if he were to leave it would instigate a massive shake-up 18 months early. Further complicating Cornyns decision-making process, the Texan is also the favorite to succeed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) as GOP leader, though McConnell doesn't appear to be going anywhere any time soon.

Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.) said: "The only thing is, I'd hate to lose him out of the Senate."

Ive heard that argument, I understand it. I think they could bring someone in out of law enforcement, that would be fine," Hoeven said of the worry about a partisan in the FBI role. "I just wouldnt rule out others who could be strong performers."

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Meanwhile, another elected official took himself out of the running for the FBI director job on Monday: Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the former chief inquisitor into the Benghazi scandal and ex-prosecutor. The four-term congressman said he spoke with Attorney General Jeff Sessions about the position, but told him of my firm conviction that I would not be the right person.

Democrats, who are increasingly behind the idea of withholding support for a new FBI chief until a special prosecutor to oversee the federal Russia probe is selected, criticized the idea of installing Cornyn in that role.

This is exactly the wrong moment, it would send exactly the wrong signal to nominate someone who has stood for election, Republican or Democrat, said Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.). Cornyn is just obviously out of bounds. Sen. Cornyn, although a former attorney general of Texas, has spent far more of his life as a partisan elected official than as a federal prosecutor.

"It should not be a politician," added Sen. Angus King of Maine, an independent who caucuses with Democrats. "I love Cornyn, but not in this job."

Austin Wright contributed to this story.

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The Republicans’ Trump ProblemAnd Ours – Daily Beast

Its the question of the hour, every hour now: What has to happen to make Republicans, even a few of them, put country before party and do what needs to be done about Donald Trump?

That something serious needs to be done is clear. Trump has arguably been impeachable since the day he took office, over his clear flouting of the emoluments clause and anti-nepotism laws. But I get that those werent big enough deals to light up public opinion. And maybe the Comey firing isnt either, even after it came out Monday evening that Trump had shared our friends best, biggest and most secret secrets with the Russians right afterward. The recent rash of polls, before this latest news, on the matter tend to show pluralities disapproving of the firing, but the usual Trump die-hard group of about 30 percent supporting, with a frustratingly high dont know enough to have an opinion.

But it has enraged informed opinion, and its no mystery why. If you are a Republican or conservative who has concocted in your brain some justification for what Trump did, consider this hypothetical. Imagine Hillary Clinton had won. She became the president. James Comey was investigating her campaign. And she fired him. After asking him to dinner and trying to exact a pledge of loyalty from him.

You wouldnt be able to see straight. The House Judiciary Committee would without any doubt have already started drawing up articles of impeachment. Fox News would have started running a Hillary Clinton days remaining in office chyron.

And your outrage would be justified. It would have been intolerable for a President Clinton to have done that (and I would not have defended it, but Im also certain she never would have done such a thing). And its intolerable for President Trump to do it.

Republicans know this. They know that a special prosecutor is not only justified but necessary, even though only two of them that Im aware of (House members Walter Jones and Justin Amash) have joined the call for one. Those two, at least, seefinallyhow dangerous Trump is. They understand that they cant control him the way they once thought.

Yet the overwhelmingly majority of them, led by Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, persist in obsequiousness. As I wrote Friday, If they can pass their tax cuts for the rich, end Obamacare, and put conservative judges on the Supreme Court and the federal circuit courts, theyll let Trump do what he wants.

So, back to the question: What has to happen? One of two things.

First, there does exist a chance, however slim, that something substantive that Trump says or doesvolunteering our allies secrets to the Russians, for instance!or some substantive revelation, will be too much even for Republicans. Hard to know what this would be. It would have to be something with dead-obvious constitutional ramifications. In other words, this eliminates a lot of things. They impeached Bill Clinton over lying about blow jobs. But a woman or ten could come forward with explosive sexual allegations and the tapes to prove it, and if it didnt involved Trumps comportment as president I dont think the GOP would budge.

But lets say, for example, that Trump did reinstitute taping in the Oval Office, and did have tapes of his chats with Comeybut destroyed them. Those tapes would be, would have been, the property not of the president but of the government of the United States. The Presidential Records Act requires that any tapes be preserved.

If that were to happen, that just might do it. Were probably about to watch some version of this play out before us. It seems pretty clear, from the way Trump and Sean Spicer have talked, that he was indeed taping. Will Republicans demand the tapes? Lindsey Graham has, although he also gave Trump the out of saying that he (Graham) doubts they really exist. But if they do exist, and if they would prove (as everyone assumes) that Trump is lying, then who could put it past him destroying them?

But were still only at might, which brings us to the second thing that may flip Republicans. And its really the only thing. Self-preservation. Lets say my destroyed tapes scenario turns out to be true. Then there will be multiple calls for impeachment and/or resignation, from nearly every Democrat, from most important newspapers, and even from a few Republicans.

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Then Trumps polling numbers go down below 30. And 30 percent is a crucial benchmark because thats about the percentage of Americans who are loyal partisan Republicans. If hes down to 25, that will mean hes losing even Republicans in fairly large numbers. That, in turn, will mean hell start to be a liability to Republican House members in swing districts. And if gets down into the low 20s, that will mean Republicans are really jumping ship.

The Cook Report currently rates six Republican-held House seats as toss-ups, 18 as leaning Republican, and 19 as likely Republican. If Trumps ratings tumble, Cook will start shifting some likelys to leaning, and it will come clear to Ryan that his majority is seriously at risk.

In other wordsand this is the hard political pointit doesnt have to be that the GOP House members in the deepest-reddest districts feel that Trump threatens their hold on their seats. That wont happen until Trump gets down to the single digits. But if the 43 Republicans Cook rates as representing potentially vulnerable districts sense that Trump is going to bring them down, then essentially the whole party will abandon Trump if the leaders decide its what they have to do to keep the House majority. The House majority is more important to them than Trump for a host of reasons. Trumps just useful to them, for now.

Now that I think about it, the scenario above wont really count as putting country ahead of party, will it? It will merely constitute putting the congressional Republican Party ahead of the presidential Republican Party. So the real answer to the question that opened this column, about when Republicans will put country ahead of party, is never.

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How Republicans Stopped Pretending and Started Getting Real – Politico

Republicans need to become a governing party.

Its a mantra weve been hearing for years, usually in response to speed bumps in the legislative process caused by internecine warfare within the House Republican conference, and always carrying the implication that some Republicans problem is that they only know how to say no.

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Earlier this month, Republicans finally got to yes, at long last passing a bill that may offer relief from some of Obamacares most destructive insurance mandates. The bill was far from perfectand it was certainly not full repeal as promisedbut its passage has paved the way for insurance market reform nonetheless and given new momentum to a legislative agenda that looked dead in its tracks mere weeks ago.

But the bills more lasting impact may be the revolution it represents within the Republican Party. Finally, House Republicans stopped pretending they are united in support of a shared governing vision. They acknowledged at long last that internal constraints imposed by substantive and ideological divisions in their conference, rather than disputes over mere tactics and procedure, are the primary limit on their own ambitions. In doing so, congressional Republicans have enabled the kind of authentic, substantive bargaining between the partys factions that has long eluded them. And they did it by no longer denying reality.

One could be forgiven for having mistaking the Republican Party as the party of no in recent years. The House Freedom Caucus in particular, so often the principled antagonist in tense situations, has found itself saying no a lot, especially when issued ultimatums on major legislation.

Why did they say no? For years, conservative members have felt they did not have a real seat at the negotiating table. It was not that their votes were taken for granted, but rather that their party did not really want their support. They believed, many times accurately, that those actually crafting significant legislation tended to pre-negotiate deals that foreclosed from the start the possibility of addressing conservative priorities. Given the partys ostensible shared commitment to those very same prioritiesthe discretionary spending caps achieved in the Budget Control Act being the most significant recurring example prior to Obamacarethe Freedom Caucus often found itself asking, Why are Republicans negotiating with ourselves?

The real problem, though, was that Republicans actually werent negotiating among themselvesinstead, they were pre-emptively giving in to liberal policy demands. GOP moderates were granted veto power over priorities party leadership pretended were core to the whole partys identity. Meanwhile, party leaders frequently lamented the presence of an implacable bloc of conservative hard-liners who, in their telling, do not know how to get to yes. The deal reached on the American Health Care Acta compromise achieved only by the persistence of Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows in pursuing ad hoc negotiations with the very moderates who were his caucuss bte noirshould explode this lazy assumption.

Why did it take so long? Because the health care bill was the one must pass bill that truly could not expect to see any Democratic support. No Republican member could be counted out. So for the first time ever on high-stakes legislation, leadership, the moderates and the conservatives finally had to learn to live with each other by acknowledging their own differences rather than pretending all differences were reducible to disposition and tactical approach. And they did it.

The most salutary development in this saga was the attention paid to the Tuesday Group, a little-known faction of moderate House members who were the final holdouts from a deal. Early in the debate, their influence went unacknowledged by leadership, which claimed it had done all that could be done to deregulate insurance markets on a budget reconciliation bill. Only after those arguments were debunked did the truth come out: For every conservative vote won over by deregulatory provisions, leadership feared it might lose several moderates, no matter the partys consistent public commitment to repeal of Obamacare. The tried and true strategy of giving the moderates what they wanteda bill preserving Obamacares core regulatory architecture without exposing their demands to scrutiny, and pressuring conservatives to fall in line, came naturally. But then it was exposed for what it was, and a new approachauthentic bargaining between the partys factionswas finally tested.

So now we know: Some Republican members of Congress did not share the partys commitment to repeal. That truth likely extends to other priorities on spending, welfare, taxes and social issues. Members who take issue with the GOPs longstanding platform when it comes time to govern can explain that to their voters, who can make their own judgments in the next election. But in the meantime, the Freedom Caucus and other conservatives have to share government with them. That will be far easier if their role in intra-conference debates is acknowledged as a restraint on the pursuit of conservative priorities than if the conferences moderates continue to operate in obscurity.

What we see now is that the problem in the Republican Congress is not dispositional but structural and substantive: The conference is divided in ways that previously went unacknowledged, between fresh blood elected in successive Tea Party waves and an older guard less committed to conservative principle. It is a governing coalition, not an ideologically cohesive party. The party must understand itself in such terms if its constituent parts are to govern together, as voters sent them to Washington to do.

Republican leaders have for too long failed to grapple with the heterogeneous nature of this coalition they have assembled. The partys self-image has long depended on pretending it is one and the same as the conservative movement that is its electoral base. Even moderates now campaign as conservatives of various stripes.

The energy that defines the 2010 Tea Party wave would likely not have existed if the party had presented a fractured, disparate agenda. Many have compared it to Newt Gingrichs achievement in 1994, when he unified the party behind the Contract With America. The coherence of its shared critique of liberal governance was indeed powerful, and it enabled the party to do great things with a weak political hand. But the difference between that wave and the 2010 one, which ushered in the legislative conflict that has become so familiar, is fundamental. In 1994, Gingrich engineered a shared commitment to reform that did not otherwise exist, and he forced that commitment on a party whose senior leaders were hesitant about balancing the budget and reforming welfare when they assumed the reins of power. The ethos of the partys insurgents was the ethos of its leadership and therefore became the ethos of its committee-level power centers. That took a particular leadership style from the top to achieve and a particular moment in time to catalyze.

John Boehner never attempted anything similar, and its not clear that he could have succeeded. A conference led by chairmen who had lived not just through the ups of the Gingrich revolution but also its downs would not have been eager to repeat the experience. So he presided over a divided conference without ever working seriously to heal its rifts or at least channel its generational divisions. Paul Ryan inherited the fruits of his lack of labor with no plan to build an authentic shared commitment. And now he has also inherited the responsibility of unified government.

But how to govern, then? We hear often of a return to committee-centered legislatingregular orderas a potential panacea. This is natural given that so many in the conference chafe at government out of the speakers office, including the speaker himself. But in a conference paralyzed by the tension between the diffusion of individual members agendas and the power held in concentrated centers, the dispute over where precisely those centers will lie committee chairmen or the leaders senior to them is a tangential one. Greg Walden, chairman of the powerful Energy and Commerce Committee that co-authored the American Health Care Act, expounded during recent town hall meetings about his fondness for the very Obamacare regulations that were the central point of contention. The notion that simply devolving power from the speakers office to such leaders, who tend to be on one side of the partys ideological divide, would erase that divides paralyzing implications is fanciful.

That divide, more than the particular distribution of power in the House, is the central fact that must be grappled with in this coalition government. And it is a coalition. A governing Republican Party cannot paper its divides over. It must instead channel and direct them, promoting wherever possible authentic negotiation between blocs of members no longer willing to defer to committees of jurisdiction or binary choices imposed by leadership and eager instead to work out deals themselves. The direct negotiations between the Tuesday Group and the Freedom Caucus over health care advanced the repeal effort and should serve as a working model for legislating on the most important and contentious matters in the 115th Congress, with other blocs invited to join the debate. No longer can the heavy lifting be done by the few in elected leadership or the committees, which is perhaps as it should be in the peoples House. But making such a system work will require each bloc to figure out what it wants, and then negotiate accordingly.

It is especially important that the independent-minded moderates in the conference, long reluctant to play such a leading role and still nostalgic over the days when the turf of committees of jurisdiction on which they did not serve was considered sacred, confront the need to do this work as a bloc with coherent demands. During the American Health Care Act debate, negotiators were stymied several times by the inchoate nature of the moderates health care priorities and their inability to pin down what, exactly, they thought was worth repealing about Obamacare. The moderates, often long-serving members with close ties to party leaders, have relied for too long on those leaders to do their work for them and look out for their interests. If the Freedom Caucus was against what leadership was doing, many often assumed, leaderships approach was probably something they should like.

This is not sustainable in a House that is changing underneath these members feet. If they expect to govern in a coalition whose center of gravity is to their right, they need a better sense themselves of what exactly they stand for and why they believe it, and they need to be willing to defend those views so that coherent negotiations can proceed in the future.

The Freedom Caucus, whose members were accused in the past themselves of being isolated bomb-throwers with scattershot, conflicting demands, has come a long way in solving the very same problems, first by banding together as a cohesive bargaining unit. With the experience of the health care negotiations behind itthe Freedom Caucuss most visible triumph in its young lifethe group will come over time to better understand itself not as a hostile actor within the Republican Party seeking short-term political victories but as a bargaining unit in constructive competition with fellow party members over discrete priorities.

All of this, of course, requires that all sides recognize that such bargaining is legitimate, even necessary, not something to be dreaded or scorned, and that its products need not represent the full vision of each of the conferences components but must account for and balance those visions where they are in tension. No bloc of members in this coalition can be wished away, at least not before the next election.

For conservatives, none of this is to suggest that the task of reshaping the Republican Party into a truly conservative partyone in which kowtowing to moderates is no longer a constant fact of lifeis no longer worth pursuing. Just the opposite; the disappointing experience of governing in a coalition that is not what it claims should underscore the need to continue the long-term debate over what it is the Republican Party stands for, a debate that will play out not just on the House floor but in many primary elections to come. That is a multi-cycle project that is entirely compatible with recognizing the restraints the current coalition imposes and therefore not requiring conservatives to set their policy sights lower in the course of making expedient accommodations to short-term legislative reality.

Conservatives and all other factions of the Republican Party have been fighting for years to make the case for their vision for the country, to convince their fellow citizens to embrace it and empower them to pursue it. That struggle continues on all sides. At long last, though, Republicans are learning now know how to govern together despite it. Acknowledging the real contours of the coalition is the essential first step to navigating them.

Michael A. Needham is chief executive officer of Heritage Action for America, and Jacob Reses is director of strategic initiatives for Heritage Action for America.

Michael A. Needham is chief executive officer of Heritage Action for America

Jacob Reses is director of strategic initiatives for Heritage Action for America.

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Republicans and Democrats try to launch bipartisan effort on health care – AZFamily

By Lauren Fox CNN

(CNN) -- There is a bipartisan effort underway to overhaul the Affordable Care Act.

Emerging from a meeting on the first floor of the Capitol Monday night, Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana told reporters they are attempting to work with Democrats to see if there is a way forward to fix the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

"We had 10 or 11 senators who came tonight. I think that's significant," Collins told reporters after a meeting. "What we're trying to do is to get away from the partisanship that has made it very difficult to come up with solution and we're trying to get away from semantics, we're trying to get away from people being locked into a party position and instead raise fundamental questions about how can we move forward."

Collins and Cassidy are authors of their own legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, but said that their legislation wasn't necessarily the starting point for any negotiation.

"This was really a meeting to look at all sorts of ideas," Collins said.

The moderate Republican senators stressed that the talks are still preliminary, with just a handful of Democrats involved. They estimated there were three or four Democrats in the meeting and a few more interested who couldn't attend Monday night. Sens. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia -- both red-state Democrats facing re-election in 2018 -- were spotted coming out of the meeting room.

Also spotted at the meeting were Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia and Dan Sullivan of Alaska.

When asked if any progress had been made in the meeting, Manchin told reporters, "no, not really."

"There's no way I can vote for a repeal," Manchin said.

Manchin said there were "some good ideas thrown out and talked about."

"It was mostly to see is there a way forward without repealing. Is there a way forward without throwing the baby out with the bathwater?" Manchin said.

The meeting happened as Republican senators charge ahead with their own working group of 13 members who have been tasked with finding a GOP path forward to repeal and replace Obamacare. Collins and Cassidy said their party's leadership, however, was made aware of their bipartisan effort.

CNN's Phil Mattingly contributed to this report.

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