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Gilchrist County Sheriff speaks out about 2nd amendment – WCJB

TRENTON, Fla. (WCJB) The right to bear arms.

A touchy subject for some, but one sheriff is letting his voice be heard. "I'm a big supporter of the Second Amendment and those people who want to bear arms. I understand there's people on opposing sides of this and I understand that. That's we live in the greatest country in the world. There's certain freedoms and constitutional rights, said Gilchrist County Sheriff Robert "Bobby Schultz.

Sheriff Schultz Took to Facebook to reach out to his community over the weekend.

He says it is important for them to protect themselves from drug-related violence.

"We've had a couple instances where homeowners have had to arm themselves and protect themselves. And without question, it is my belief that if they weren't armed, it would have resulted in serious harm to themselves if not death, said Schultz.

The sheriff says he is on a mission to educate Gilchrist County on concealed weapons by offering classes at this training facility.

"Being in the area we live in, rural country ,somebody's had a firearm in their hand one time or another. but there are those exceptions where somebody comes and they went and bought a weapon just to take this class and they've never shot before, said FDLE Certified Concealed Carry Instructor Deputy Michael Simpson

The sheriff's office also partners with D.A.R.E, to teach kids how to stay safe and away from drugs.

"I want them to make sure they have the skills and the necessary information and knowledge so that they are to be able to resist not just in Gilchrist County, said Deputy David Alderholt, who is a School Resource Officer.

"It's more than just enforcing the law with me and the Gilchrist County Sheriff's Office, it's more about helping because we will make this place as safe as possible."

By cracking down on narcotics one step at a time.

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Free-speech challenge: Can First and Second Amendments be exercised simultaneously? – Christian Science Monitor

August 25, 2017The year was 1977, and a group of neo-Nazis wanted to march through Skokie, Ill. a Chicago suburb where, at the time, one out of every six Jewish residents was either a Holocaust survivor or directly related to one.

The American Civil Liberties Union successfully argued that the march should be allowed, despite the towns vehement objections. (The rally was ultimately moved to Chicago.) Its defense of free speech, even when it qualifies as hate speech, cost the ACLU about 30,000 members but the organization stayed consistent with a policy it held since the late 1930s.

Last week, though, the ACLU decided to change that policy in response to a violent white supremacist protest in Charlottesville, Va. Dozens of protesters marched through the town with guns some armed better than police, according to state officials illustrating a troubling new challenge for First Amendment guardians: what to do now when people want to exercise their right to protest at the same time as their right to openly carry guns in public?

The Charlottesville events have triggered a classic American debate that has been part of our constitutional conversation for well over 100 years, says Rodney Smolla, dean of Widener University Delaware Law School.

You have the right to engage in racist speech, and there may be a state legal right to carry a gun, but when you put the two together in a mass demonstration you create a dangerous combination, he adds.

The intertwining of the First and Second Amendments is not unheard of in the US (perhaps most famously with the Black Panthers in the 1970s, which led to gun control laws being enacted in states such as California). Today, though, 46 states have some form of open-carry laws on the books complicating the debate, according to legal scholars. For its part, the ACLU says it is trying to adapt to the times.

Prior to the Charlottesville rally, the ACLU of Virginia successfully defended rally organizers when the town went to court to have it moved to a location outside the town center. The rally turned violent with 35 people reported injured and a woman killed, police say, after a neo-Nazi sympathizer drove his car into a crowd and was declared an unlawful assembly. Days later after widespread public condemnation, including among its own members the national organization announced that it will now not defend groups seeking to march with firearms.

They will also screen clients more closely for violence at their rallies, executive director Anthony Romero told The Wall Street Journal.

Its neither a blanket no or a blanket yes, Mr. Romero added, saying the ACLU will continue to deal with requests on a case-by-case basis. But the events of Charlottesville, he said, require any legal group to look at the facts of any white supremacy protests with a much finer comb.

The shifting legal landscape around gun rights is what makes todays free speech debate so much tougher for groups like the ACLU, experts say.

The simple dedication to the principles of free speech become a little more murky when people are carrying guns, says William Marshall, the Kenan Professor of Law at the University of North Carolina (UNC).

You can be a strong believer in Second Amendment rights and a strong believer in First Amendment rights, but even if you are you might want to think about how those two work together in highly volatile demonstrations, he adds.

Ahead of two protests by the self-described "alt-right" this weekend in California, ACLU affiliates in California released their own separate statement headlined, White Supremacist Violence Is Not Free Speech.

If white supremacists march into our towns armed to the teeth and with the intent to harm people they are not engaging in activity protected by the United States Constitution, the statement concluded.

In Charlottesville, dozens of civilians carried semi-automatic weapons during the protest. Some had better equipment than our state police, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) said, while critics suggested the heavily armed protesters made police too afraid to intervene.

But an early consensus among free speech scholars is beginning to emerge that a protest with guns cannot be treated, for First Amendment purposes, the same as a rally without guns.

A march or rally by people who are heavily armed is not an exercise of what the First Amendment calls the right of the people peaceably to assemble, writes Michael Dorf, a professor at Cornell Law School in Ithaca, N.Y., in the Take Care blog.

Aspiring protesters can as individuals, exercise their putative Second Amendment right to carry arms in public or they can, as a group, exercise their First Amendment right to peaceable assemble in which they are not armed, he adds. The attempt to combine those two rights will, in the typical case, be unprotected.

Exactly how rallies with guns should be treated by courts remains to be seen. This legal terrain is complicated even further by the fact that there isnt yet a definitive Supreme Court ruling regarding the right to carry guns in public.

Both the Heller (2008) and the McDonald (2010) decisions the most recent Second Amendment cases heard by the high court avoided answering whether Americans are allowed to openly carry guns in public. Last term, the justices declined to take up a case out of California that would have directly addressed it.

Samuel Walker, an emeritus professor at the University of Nebraska and a former ACLU board member, says the ACLU needs to keep protecting free speech for even the most extreme groups because social progress has advanced in part because our law protects strong and often offensive language. But he also agrees with the new change in policy.

Its a new aspect of this whole ongoing controversy, says Professor Walker, author of In Defense of American Liberties, a history of the ACLU. I do not think the ACLU should defend any demonstration or march where protesters plan to carry guns.

The boundaries of free speech have been evolving in the United States for more than 100 years.

Prior to World War II, the country was much tougher on offensive speech. In 1919, the US Supreme Court ruled that speaking out against the draft was not protected by the First Amendment, and in 1942 the justices ruled that fighting words (words that inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace) are not protected either.

Since then, the views of Justices Oliver Wendell Holmes and Louis Brandeis have prevailed. (At least in the public square. In areas such as schools and government buildings there are more restrictions on free speech.) Those justices believed that the good speech will drown out the bad speech in the marketplace of ideas, says Professor Smolla, author of Free Speech in an Open Society.

So as it stands, as far as the First Amendment is concerned, free speech includes hate speech. Unlike in Europe, hate speech has no legal definition in America.

The ACLUs commitment to defending free speech rights is driven by the concern that carving out exceptions, even for the most repulsive language, could later be used to censor other, more acceptable, forms of speech.

Yet its that position that has provoked ire even among some members time and again. There's also a shift among younger Americans regarding the importance of protecting offensive speech: 40 percent of Millennials believe the federal government should be able to limit speech offensive to minorities, according to a 2015 survey by the Pew Research Center.

Even prior to Charlottesville, the ACLU had been under fire internally over its decision to defend Milo Yiannopoulos, a high-profile figure in the self-proclaimed alt right a coalition that combines white nationalism, anti-Semitism, and populism in a dispute with the Washington, D.C., public transportation authority. The authority had refused to display his ads on public transit. (Mr. Yiannopoulos is one of several plaintiffs in the case, including Carafem, a group that helps women access birth control and medication abortions; People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals; and the ACLU itself.)

But Charlottesville triggered a much larger backlash.

Many have called on supporters to stop donating to the organization. A board member of the ACLU of Virginia, Waldo Jaquith, resigned after the Charlottesville protests, tweeting that he wont be a fig leaf for the Nazis.

The ACLUs new tack leaves untouched the principle that hate speech is constitutionally protected a principle some on the left are again calling into question but the new dynamic introduced by shifting and still unsettled gun rights laws may introduce another boundary to Americas unique free speech protections in the future.

The way the Second Amendment and First Amendment intertwine is really a new area of law, says Professor Marshall, from UNC. I think anyone approaching this area is sitting back and trying to think about what the ramifications are.

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Second Amendment Foundation won’t support armed protests – Guns.com

Alan Gottlieb, founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation.

The Second Amendment Foundation, one of the largest gun advocacy groups in the country, has come out and said they can no longer support the carrying of firearms at protests.

While the foundation has represented gun owners in some major cases in recent years, founder and executive vice president Alan Gottlieb told the Washington Times this week that armed public protests are something they cant defend.

We are not a fan of armed protests and highly discourage that, said Gottlieb. Firearms serve a purpose, and the purpose is not a mouthpiece. Its to defend yourself. If you are carrying it to make a political point, we are not going to support that.

Gottliebs statement comes in the aftermath of the violent Charlottesville protests, in which groups of neo-Nazis and white supremacists clashed with counter protesters earlier this month. The protests took a deadly turn when aneo-Nazi drove a car into a group of counter-protesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 19 others.

Though no one was shot at the rally, some have said protesters openly carrying firearmsonly escalatedan already tense situation.

There are many in the gun community who believe the open carriers pose a big threat to gun rights because they are so aggressive and so in the face of other people in controversial settings that it could lead to a backlash, saidAdam Winkler, a gun rights expert and constitutional law professor at the UCLA.

After the mayhem in Charlottesville, the American Civil Liberties Union, which represented the Unite the Right organizers as they sought a permit for their rally, announced they would no longer represent white supremacist groups planning to protest with firearms.

Lawmakers in Virginia and Pennsylvania have also vowed to take action against armed protesters, saying they would introduce legislation to ban guns at public demonstrations.

While Gottlieb and the SAF wont support armed protests, he said the foundation would still consider defending someone who was lawfully carrying a firearm for self-defense at a rally and was disarmed or arrested by law enforcement.

Erich Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, said that while his organization does not specialize in First Amendment issues and so has not brought any legal cases regarding armed protests, they would publicly defend a groups right to protest with guns, so long as the group had peaceful intentions.

Pratt also said that GOA would oppose any legislation that aims to ban guns from public demonstrations.

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Gun Enthusiasts Fired Up For Second Amendment Tax Free Weekend – www.localmemphis.com

MISSISSIPPI - Gun enthusiasts are fired up for the magnolia state's second amendment tax free weekend.

Today and tomorrow you won't have to pay sales tax when you buy guns, ammo, and accessories.

Mississippi's first tax free holiday kicked off in 2014 in an effort to support second amendment rights and trigger a boost in the economy.

Gun store owners say the event is always successful because people like saving money.

"Sales tax in Mississippi is 7% so say you came in and bought a gun for $500 you're gonna save $35 well that equates to dinner out with your family depending on where you go or a tank of gas," says Jeff Duncan, Owner of the Gun Exchange

You must be 18 years old to buy a long gun and 21 to buy a hand gun.

You also must pass the FBI mandated background check.

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ALABAMA JOINS 21-STATE COALITION URGING SUPREME COURT TO PROTECT SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS – Shoals Insider

MONTGOMERY Attorney General Steve Marshall announced Alabama has joined a 21-state coalition urging the U.S. Supreme Court to defend the rights of gun owners against efforts to ban certain firearms typically used by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes.

In their amicus brief in the case Kolbe v Hogan, the states asked the Supreme Court to hear arguments against, and ultimately strike down, a Maryland weapons ban that infringes on the rights of legal gun owners by prohibiting the sale, transfer and possession of certain semiautomatic firearms and standard-capacity magazines.

The U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, in this case, must not stand since it would set case law in five states and potentially set the stage for a federal ban by a future Congress, said Attorney General Marshall. These firearms are already protected under existing case law relating to weapons that are lawfully carried by gun owners.

Alabama and the other states argue the lower court ruling inappropriately limited the scope of the Second Amendment by taking an earlier Supreme Court ruling out of context.

Alabama, joined West Virginia, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming in filing the brief Friday.

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