14 things Bernie Sanders has said about socialism – POLITICO
Socialist has never been a complimentary term in American political discourse, but it has reached a particularly high level of toxicity during the past six years of President Barack Obamas administration.
While the president and his defenders have spent a great deal of time parrying that attack, Bernie Sanders is using the socialist label to his advantage, packing venues around the country and establishing himself as Hillary Rodham Clintons leading challenger for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.
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Sanders, 73, has been preaching socialism for nearly half a century, and he cites Eugene Debs, the five-time presidential candidate of the Socialist Party of America, as his hero. But he hasnt always embraced the label.
I myself dont use the word socialism, he said in 1976 in the Vermont Cynic, a student publication at the University of Vermont, because people have been brainwashed into thinking socialism automatically means slave-labor camps, dictatorship and lack of freedom of speech.
Even when Sanders ran for mayor of Burlington in 1981, Bernie never mentioned the word socialist in his campaign, according to Greg Guma, a longtime Sanders watcher and the author of The Peoples Republic: Vermont and the Sanders Revolution.
When he won, though, it wasnt Sanders choice anymore.
The media probably made that label stick, said Alan Abbey, who covered Sanders at the time for the Burlington Free Press. It makes for good headlines.
Ive stayed away from calling myself a socialist, Sanders said in the Boston Globe in the aftermath of his win in 81, because I did not want to spend half my life explaining that I did not believe in the Soviet Union or in concentration camps.
Two months later, in the Boston Phoenix, he said he didnt want to be a spokesman for socialism.
Its what hes become. And even though less than half of Americans say they would vote for a socialist for president (47 percent, fewer than would vote for an atheist or a Muslim), Sanders is sticking with it.
Here, then, are 14 things Sanders has said about socialism since the 80s:
1. In the summer 1986 issue of a now-defunct magazine called Vermont Affairs: All that socialism means to me, to be very frank with you, is democracy with a small d. I believe in democracy, and by democracy I mean that, to as great an extent as possible, human beings have the right to control their own lives. And that means that you cannot separate the political structure from the economic structure. One has to be an idiot to believe that the average working person whos making $10,000 or $12,000 a year is equal in political power to somebody who is the head of a large bank or corporation. So if you believe in political democracy, if you believe in equality, you have to believe in economic democracy as well.
2. In Vermont Affairs: I certainly did not know what the word socialism meant growing up, because I was brought up in a very nonpolitical family. My brother was somewhat active, but my parents were not. But I think some people tend not to accept what almost everybody has accepted as true. Many people go to school, but most of them dont challenge the basic assumptions of their teachers or of the system. And I always have. You reach a certain age when you start reading reasonably widely, and you find ideas that reflect your gut feeling about something. I think thats usually the process you find what youre looking for. I had that feeling when I first read Eugene Debs, for example. If you read what Debs said about the goals of socialism, its no different from what Ive been saying that all socialism is about is democracy.
3. From the 1988 dissertation of Steven Soifer, a professor of social work at the University of Memphis, who wrote about Sanders time as mayor of Burlington: What being a socialist means is that you hold out a vision of society where poverty is absolutely unnecessary, where international relations are not based on greed but on cooperation where human beings can own the means of production and work together rather than having to work as semi-slaves to other people who can hire and fire.
4. In an interview with Catherine Alison Hill for a masters thesis she wrote at Cornell in 1989: Socialism has a lot of different messages to different people. I think the issue of socialist ideology and what that meant or means is not terribly important. I think the positive of it is that it indicates to people that I am not a conventional politician. If they are not happy with the status quo, then that is a positive thing. The negative of it obviously is that there are people who equate it with totalitarianism and the Soviet Union.
5. In a speech he gave at the National Committee for Independent Political Action in New York City on June 22, 1989, reprinted in the December 1989 issue of the socialist publication Monthly Review: In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist and that many people in our movement, not all, are socialists. And as often as not and this is an interesting point that is the honest-to-God truth what people will say is, I dont really know what socialism is, but if youre not a Democrat or a Republican, youre OK with me. Thats true. And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word socialism.
6. In his NCIPA speech: Yes, it is true that a result of the tremendous political ignorance in this country created by the schools and the media, there are many people who do not know the difference between socialism and communism. Yes, on more than one occasion, I have been told to go back to Russia. But, if we maintain a strong position on civil liberties, express our continued opposition to authoritarianism and the concept of the one-party state, I am confident that the vast majority of the people will understand that there is nothing incompatible between socialism and democracy. That has been the case in Vermont and I believe, with proper effort, that it can be the case nationally. Further, given the fact that in Burlington we have almost doubled voter turnout and have significantly increased citizen participation, it is very hard for our opponents to argue that we are not democratic.
7. In an interview with The Associated Press in November 1990: To me, socialism doesnt mean state ownership of everything, by any means, it means creating a nation, and a world, in which all human beings have a decent standard of living.
8. In the book he wrote with Huck Gutman, Outsider in the House, published in 1997: Bill Clinton is a moderate Democrat. Im a democratic socialist.
9. In an interview with the Guardian in November 2006: Twenty years ago, when people here thought about socialism they were thinking about the Soviet Union, about Albania. Now they think about Scandinavia. In Vermont people understand Im talking about democratic socialism.
10. In an interview with The Washington Post in November 2006. I wouldnt deny it. Not for one second. Im a democratic socialist. In Norway, parents get a paid year to care for infants. Finland and Sweden have national health care, free college, affordable housing and a higher standard of living. . Why shouldnt that appeal to our disappearing middle class?
11. In an interview with Democracy Now in November 2006: In terms of socialism, I think there is a lot to be learned from Scandinavia and from some of the work, very good work that people have done in Europe. In countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, poverty has almost been eliminated. All people have health care as a right of citizenship. College education is available to all people, regardless of income, virtually free. I have been very aggressive in trying to move to sustainable energy. They have a lot of political participation, high voter turnouts. I think there is a lot to be learned from countries that have created more egalitarian societies than has the United States of America.
12. To Democracy Now: I think it means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship, all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality childcare, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. Thats all it means. And we are living in an increasingly undemocratic society in which decisions are made by people who have huge sums of money. And thats the goal that we have to achieve.
13. In an interview with the Des Moines Register this month: If you look at the issues you dont have to worry about the word socialist just look at what Im talking about. If you go out and ask the American people: Is it right that the middle class continues to disappear while there has been a massive transfer of wealth from working families to the top one-tenth of 1 percent? Trillions of dollars in the last 30 years have flowed from the middle class to the top one-tenth of 1 percent. And the American people say, No, thats not right. And if you ask the American people: Do you think its right that despite an explosion of technology and an increase in worker productivity, the average worker is working longer hours for low wages? They say no. And what the American people are saying pretty loudly and clearly is they want an economy that works for ordinary Americans. For working people. Not an economy where almost all of the income and all of the wealth is going to the top 1 percent. Thats what we have now.
14. In an interview with The Nation this month: Do they think Im afraid of the word? Im not afraid of the word.
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