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We knew when we asked Boston.com readers to name their best-ever Boston-area concert that wed get some interesting, varied and possibly kind of loopy responses. What we didnt know was whether there would be a clear winner for the best concert in the citys modern history.

But believe it or not, it turns out there was in fact one single show that stood out among the rest. And by a wide margin too.

But first, some statistics: More than 300 people responded to our poll, naming more than 150 different artists and upwards of 75 venues (although several involved different names for the same place, owing to Bostons impossible-to-follow, ever-changing concert scene). And the responses mentioned well over 200 individual shows, ranging from a 1960 performance of Joan Baez at Club 47 (later Club Passim) in Harvard Square, to a fans-only Garth Brooks show at Six String Grill & Stage in Patriot Place this past February, just before the pandemic put the kibosh on live music.

But what about that top show? Our question was prompted by a re-release of U2s Live in Boston featuring a full Fleet Center show from 2001, so its only appropriate that Bono and company should take the title. But it wasnt that concert, but rather the legendary Irish bands March 17, 1992 St. Patricks Day stop at the old Boston Garden that got the nod, with 10 separate respondents citing it as their top show ever.

Part of the bands Zoo TV tour in support of 1991s Achtung Baby, the setlist featured most of that now-classic disc, along with early favorites like Bad, rarities like Van Diemens Land, and a cover of Lou Reeds Satellite of Love. Heres what some Boston.com readers remembered about the night:

No other single show came close, although Pearl Jams April 1994 stint at the old Garden got five shout-outs, with their September 2018 Fenway Park stop getting four. And Bruce Springsteen managed four mentions for his shows in the shadow of the Green Monster in August 2012, with three for his September 2003 Fenway appearance, the first-ever concert there.

In terms of most-mentioned artists overall, 17 acts got four or more votes in our poll, and there were some clear favorites who would seem to indicate most of our respondents may have been Of A Certain Age. (We know who we are.) Check them out in the chart below, keeping in mind that more than 100 artists that got three votes or fewer didnt make the cut those included acts as diverse as Andrea Bocelli, Ariana Grande, Beyonc and Jay-Z, Buddy Guy, Chance the Rapper, Fugazi, Human Sexual Response, Julianna Hatfield, New Kids on the Block, Pat Benatar, Paul McCartney, Sonny & Cher, and Til Tuesday, which sounds like the lineup for the craziest Coachella ever.

There were even three folks who got to list The Beatles, two at the Garden in 1964 and one at Suffolk Downs in 1966; three who pointed to the famous July 1972 Rolling Stones show when Boston Mayor Kevin White had to get the boys out of jail in Providence; one who checked out James Brown at The Channel in 1987; and three who were lucky enough to see Jimi Hendrix in 1968, one at the Garden and two at the Carousel Theater in Framingham. Excuse me while I kiss the sky; in the meantime you can see the full list here.

Youve probably noticed the Boston Garden the original one, with its rickety rafters and bad sight lines getting a lot of love here. In fact, it was by far the most-mentioned venue, with 67 of the shows mentioned taking place in its hallowed halls. (Its successor, TD Garden ne Fleet Center, garnered a mere 25.) Also impressive is the second-place finish for Fenway Park, which has only been hosting concerts since 2003, and only during the summer when the Sox are away. (Although this past season they would have been more than welcome on game nights.) It still managed to host 44 of the shows mentioned.

Any venue that got at least four votes in our poll is represented in the chart below, although parsing out which were unique venues and which were just Avalon by another name, for instance, was kind of tricky. And there were plenty of less-mentioned sites past and present that didnt make the chart but are still worthy of note, like Agganis Arena, Cape Cod Coliseum, Great Scott, Middle East Downstairs, Jonathan Swifts, TT the Bears, Tsongas Arena and The Roxy. Check out the full list here.

If youre really eager to take a deep dive, you can see the full poll results as submitted here, warts and all. Meanwhile, keep watching those Internet livestreams, singing in the shower, and spinning your old copy of Frampton Comes Alive. With a little luck and hopefully a vaccine live music will be back in our lives faster than you can count off to four (in your best Springsteen counting voice, of course).

Joan Baez, Club 47, March 20, 1960. That voice! Doris, Lincoln

The Beatles, Boston Garden, Oct. 12, 1964. As a young high school student from Boston it was my first concert and the atmosphere was exhilarating. We had no idea what icons they would become. Paula, Boston

Buddy Guy, Club 47, Jan. 10, 1967. It was back in the heyday of the blues, and Buddy Guy who Clapton calls the greatest blues guitarist ever was in his prime. It was Buddy, and Jack Meyers on bass, and A.C. Reed on sax. About the finest of the Chicago bluesmen. He was like a controlled Hendrix so smooth! Pickin with his teeth, behind his back He even climbed up on the piano, in the low-ceilinged little venue, and pinned the guitar up against the ceiling and was picking it with the same hand! He had an extra long cord, and walked out on the street (it was 10 degrees out in January!) while the bass player and drummer remained on stage, the sax man and trumpet player were behind each shoulder. Never forget it! Scott, Newton

Jimi Hendrix, Boston Garden, July 15, 1968. I was in the U.S. Army stationed here before going overseas. I was on a first date w/ the girl who would be my girlfriend for the last five months of my Boston stay. It was also my first contact high from the marijuana wafting up from the floor. Hendrix was nothing less than astonishing. Chris, back in Boston 50 years after posting

Led Zeppelin, Boston Tea Party, Jan. 4, 1969. Just about when they released their first album. The Boston Tea Party was in a converted church and we were maybe 20 feet from Jimmy Page, John Bonham, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones just on the left side of the stage. Talk about Dazed and Confused! That was a very big year quite a way to start it off! Steve, Arlington

The Doors, Boston Arena at Northeastern University, April 10, 1970. Ill never forget it. I was 19. The first show was at 7 and we had tickets to the 10 p.m. show which didnt start until after midnight because apparently Jim was busy getting inebriated. It wasnt the best quality show I was ever at but certainly the most memorable. Jim wouldnt leave the stage so they cut the power off. It was a lot of fun! Ed, South Shore

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Boston Garden, May 29, 1970. VIVID MEMORY: 25 days after four students were shot dead by the Ohio National Guard at Kent State. Midway through the concert Stephen Stills said, Our next song is a new one that Neil just finished writing, weve never played it for anyone before, youre the first ones to hear it, so here goes. Even though no one had ever heard the song before, very quickly almost everyone knew exactly what it was about and by the end of the song 18,000 people were singing 4 dead in O-H-I-O. John, Springfield

The Rolling Stones, Boston Garden, July 19, 1972. I was 16 years old and this was the night that two Stones were arrested at the Green Airport in Rhode Island. The concert was delayed for hours. Mayor White got them out of jail, arranged a police escort to Boston, and they went on just after midnight. The mayor kept the trains running so I was able to get back to Lowell around 4 a.m. Couldnt sleep. The band was on fire, as they were for the whole 1972 tour, but this night was special. Jack, Orange

Boz Scaggs, Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, Schaeffer Stadium, July 26, 1976. Boz Scaggs really surprised me, but both Fleetwood Mac (at the time, Rumors had just been released) and the Eagles (supporting On the Border) were at their early peaks, and it was a tremendous opportunity to see all of them together. Bob, Palm Harbor, Fla.

Bob Marley, Harvard Stadium, July 21, 1979. Bob Marley in his prime, outdoors on beautiful summers day, at a classic stadium, with Dick Gregory and Patty Labelle, to celebrate the ongoing liberation of the people of Africa. See for yourself.

U2, Paradise Rock Club, March 6, 1981. It was U2s second time through Boston and BCN had built the buzz around the concert. They were still figuring out the larger concerts and still had the raw pub band energy, which translated perfectly to the Paradise. Saw them later at the Orpheum and there was more show and a bit less grit (still pretty good concert but not quite as memorable as the first time). Never really felt the need to see them in a stadium setting. Grant, Boston

Prince, Orpheum Theater, Jan. 18, 1982. Prince was amazing; it was early in his career and he outdid himself. Not only was Prince prime The Time opened off the show with so much emotion that Prince took it to the next level once he began. It was also most likely the loudest concert I ever attended.

English Beat, The Channel, Sept. 8, 1982. I was just getting into ska. The English Beat had the whole place dancing. The Clash played The Orpheum the same night, and they were dancing in front of the stage with the rest of us.

Bob Dylan, Boston Opera House, Oct. 24, 1989. The beginning of the great Dylan comeback, the Oh Mercy tour. Spellbinding acoustic set including Boots of Spanish Leather and Hattie Carroll. Top notch backing band led by G.E. Smith. The master rediscovering his genius.

Nirvana, Axis, Sept. 23, 1991. Saw Nirvana in a small club when one of greatest albums of all time, Nevermind, came out in September 1991. Nick, Lexington

Pearl Jam, Boston Garden, April 11, 1994. Just days after Kurt Cobains suicide when everything seemed to be coming apart, watching Pearl Jam leave everything on stage was beautifully life affirming. Chris, A-Town

Oasis, Local 186 in Allston, Oct. 24, 1994. After an unremarkable opening band criticized Oasis manager, Oasis road crew threw their equipment (drums, mike stands, amps) off the front of the stage. After a small scuffle and lots of profanity, Oasis came out pumped up and played a blistering set of songs from Definitely Maybe.

Julianna Hatfield, Middle East Downstairs, Oct. 24, 1995. Local band on top of their game and iconic small venue.

Coldplay, Paradise Rock Club, Aug. 6, 2002. Small venue for a band that eventually became one of the biggest in the world.

J. Geils/Aerosmith, Fenway Park, Aug. 14, 2010. This was the most Boston of concerts, ever. Two of our biggest bands playing outside in our venerated baseball cathedral. Steven Tyler, alone at a piano on top of the Green Monster playing the opening bars to Dream On, was beyond amazing. Jon, North Andover

Bruce Springsteen, Fenway Park, Aug. 15, 2012. Springsteen concerts are always by far the best of the best, but this one was something special even for his standards. Now, the first night on 8/14 was good, and the 8/18 show at Gillette was good, but this one sandwiched in the middle was downright LEGENDARY As a result of refusing to let anyone go home for bedtime, he got fined for playing too long past curfew (which Im pretty sure happened at every local show he has played at Fenway, Great Woods, and Gillette since 2008), and any time this man decides that the POWER OF ROCK N ROLL is mightier than the money or the rules, its a great night. And listen, you dont have to take my word for it. Go to any Springsteen fan site and ask their opinion of this concert, its an easy way to get us going. Bill, East Bridgewater

Bosstones, Lemonheads, Buffalo Tom, Boston Common, July 20, 2013. Post-Marathon bombing. Great great vibe as Boston bounced back from the violence. Free and open on the Common. Beautiful.

The Pixies, TT the Bears Place, June 18, 2015. The day started with a surprise announcement of a secret show to celebrate the closing of TT the Bears. Only those with the bracelet got in. Thats part of what made this night special was the fact that everyone in the crowd at some point took off work or other responsibilities to wait in the hot sun for a ticket. So when we got to the show, we already had a shared experience. Then, it started. And what followed was 2+ hours of straight music. No conversation, no pauses, just song after song. The air was filled with a fog from the heat of the crowd. The sound was loud and ripped through your body. There were many times during the show when my feet werent on the ground because the crowd was one big mass pulsating and pushing me to and fro. It was loud, dirty and glorious just as rock n roll should be. Josh, Dedham

Foo Fighters, Fenway Park, July 1, 2016. Amazing performance, high energy was the summer of [Dave Grohls] broken femur and the doctor came on stage to join the band Carolyn, Londonderry, N.H.

Kenny Chesney, Gillette Stadium, Aug. 25, 2016. When he sings his famous song about Boston, its a highlight! I love Kenny performing in Foxboro the tailgating, end of the summer vibes! Lindsay, Boston

New Kids on the Block, Fenway Park, July 8, 2017. The energy was off the charts. Thunderstorm rolled through before they came on so the field was wet, but the boys took advantage and performed on the wet infield, sliding into puddles, then climbed on top of the dugouts for a song. Such a fun night and wonderful memory. Katherine, Boston, MA

Mt. Joy, Great Scott, June 12, 2018. Great Scotts original location is now only fleeting memories of sticky floors and sweaty bodies packed into that tiny venue on Comm Ave. However, [promoter] Carl Lavin has saved the spirit of Great Scott: that is booking small, up-and-coming indie bands. Mt. Joy is one of the finest examples of that. This show was perfect; a sold-out night where the crowd sang along to every word. Just weeks before the pandemic hit Mt. Joy was playing shows for 30,000 people. I feel grateful for these nights and Boston is better for them. SAVE LOCAL VENUES! I want Boston.com to pose this question 5 years from now and I hope someone will share these same memories. Ryan, Somerville

Garth Brooks, Six String Grill & Stage in Foxboro, Feb. 5, 2020. Garth Brooks Dive Bar Tour stop in Foxboro was the greatest local concert for so many reasons. First, it was truly just for fans (it was free and you had to win tickets on a local radio contest). So everyone screamed every word to every song all night. It was such an intimate experience, and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. The show itself was amazing, and Ive never stood so close to an artist at a concert. It was also basically one of the last public things we did before the pandemic shut down things like this, so I think back to it fondly all the time! Erinn, Foxboro

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Gusts of wind tumbling over pink table cloths and vines of plastic flowers didnt stop Elena Hussan from opening up her business new home for tea parties in Bixby Knolls, Sunday morning.

Hussan, owner of Dream Come True Tea & Party Room, has been waiting 17 years to debut a permanent venue, originally slated to open this past summer, but was deterred by the coronavirus pandemic.

Its exciting and nerve-wracking at the same time, Hussan said about her venues first day in business. More than anything, she said she was grateful that she didnt lose her business, giving thanks to a dozen individuals, including her mother and boyfriend, who helped her dream come true.

Hussan invited the public to view the space, adorned with tall, pink walls and a ceiling mural as well as vintage China tea sets and hand-painted flowers around the bathroom mirror.

The venue specializes in theme parties with style and charm, from hosting fairy and princess parties for children to tea time for adults.

After hearing word of the grand opening, Lucy He, 26, came all the way from the San Fernando Valley with a Long Beach friend to see the room for herself.

It always reminds me of all the Victorian movies, she said with excitement. He, wearing a white, ruffled mask and pink ribbons on her hair, said she became interested in this aesthetic in college.

Her friend, 35-year-old Lauren Nishikawa, has been fond of the style since she was a child. Its very whimsical here, she said about the venue. I love it.

After taking pictures and gazing upon the different textures of the venue, Nishikawa and He were then seated for their reservation at the tents behind the business in the parking lota tea party experience Hussan hopes customers will still enjoy.

We made the outdoor tent as cute as possible, Hussan said.

Dream Come True Tea & Party Room is located at 3924 Atlantic Ave. Long Beach, CA 90807.

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About 70% of Republicans apparently believe the 2020 presidential election to have been neither free nor fair.

Thats a big chunk of voters rejecting, on entirely bogus grounds, the legitimacy of the new president.

And its not the first time either.

From 2011, Donald Trump engendered support for his own tilt at the White House by questioning the legality of the Obama presidency. He built his political career upon the embrace of birtherism, a racist conspiracy that emerged during the election of 2008.

Back then, rightwing blogs and talk radio shows claimed Obama was not a natural-born citizen of the US, and thus ineligible for office under Article Two of the constitution.

A Harris Poll in 2010 found an astonishing 25% of respondents questioned Obamas right to serve, as the birthers tried to persuade electoral college voters, the supreme court and members of the college to block his certification.

More than any other figure, Trump brought that rejection of Obamas legitimacy into the mainstream.

If he wasnt born in this country, which is a real possibility ... he told NBCs Today Show in 2011, then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.

For the Tea Party movement and the Republican fringe, birtherism underpinned a rightwing conviction that Obamas presidency represented a kind of coup.

Mind you, after the 2016 election, a significant proportion of Democrats thought the same about Trumps victory.

As David Greenberg notes, Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter and John Lewis were among those who publicly labelled Trump illegitimate, elected only as the result of Russian meddling. Some Democrats blamed Vladimir Putin for the WikiLeaks release of the Podesta emails or suggested Russian social bots fixed the outcome; others falsely claimed that voting booths had been rigged or that Trump was in fact a Manchurian candidate employed in Putins service.

For such people, Trump wasnt merely an odious, rightwing demagogue. He was also an impostor, whose presence in the Oval Office signified systemic institutional failure.

The refusal by Trumps supporters to accept the 2020 result as genuine didnt then come entirely from nowhere. Indeed, its been a long time since partisans of a defeated presidential candidate havent denounced the process that allowed their opponent to win.

Perhaps we shouldnt be surprised.

For years, surveys have revealed a massive and ongoing decline in trust in basic institutions, including those associated with democracy.

In early 2020, for instance, the communications firm Edelman polled 34,000 people in 28 countries for its Trust Barometer report. It found a tremendous decrease in the publics respect for institutions, with almost everywhere government and media perceived as both incompetent and unethical.

Fifty-seven percent of those surveyed believed the media to be contaminated with untrustworthy information and 66% did not expect government leaders to successfully address our countrys challenges.

Even in Australia, one of the wealthiest and most secure nations in the world, more than half of people polled saw the system as failing them, and a large majority no longer possessed confidence in the media.

We might think this cynicism would favour progressives, given the lefts longstanding critique of institutional power.

But its not as simple as that.

Obama won office because George W Bush had plunged America into permanent, unpopular wars. Trump triumphed in 2016 because he faced a weak opponent; he lost in 2020 when his response to Covid-19 revealed his utter ineptitude.

In other words, you dont need to cry fraud to explain recent presidential elections. You can understand the outcomes easily enough in terms of decisions by voters.

But only if you acknowledge voters ability to make such decisions.

Conspiracy theories proceed on an entirely different basis. They present ordinary people as gulls, the perpetual dupes of power; they suggest events unfold, always and everywhere, according to the will of hidden string pullers.

Rather than asking why their candidate didnt appeal to electors, the conspiracist looks for external manipulation implicitly accepting that only the elite can make history.

In different circumstances, a widespread cynicism about the existing institutions might propel a movement to deepen and widen participation in political affairs. Right now, however, it seems to be linked to a prevailing pessimism about democratic agency, one that can all too easily provide openings for authoritarian demagogues.

Joe Biden takes office as the embodiment of American business-as-usual. Despite polling far more votes than Trump, he remains the ultimate insider, associated with many of the most consistently hated policies in recent years (from the Iraq war, which he championed, to mass incarceration, which he helped initiate).

Not surprisingly, if you survey rightwing social media, you can see the new argument cohering at a frightening speed, with more and more accounts claiming that Biden was illegitimately foisted on honest Americans by a nefarious elite. Far-right agitators, many of whom had long since given up on Trump, have embraced the #stopthesteal campaign with enthusiasm, with the upcoming Million Maga march potentially bringing together motley white nationalist and fascist groups in what looks very much like an attempted reprise of the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally.

Just as Trumps rise inspired imitators elsewhere, we should expect the rights narrative to spread internationally. Already, baseless allegations of electoral fraud have been echoed by Australian politicians and its still early days yet.

Trump might be gone but, until we can rekindle faith in ordinary peoples ability to reshape the world, Trumpism will remain very much with us.

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Trumpism will persist until we rekindle faith in peoples ability to reshape the world - The Guardian

Ive been watching as Americans all across the country celebrate Joe Biden becoming the president-elect. There is a sense of joy and hope that has not been seen in our country for four years. Im excited but know there is a lot of work and due-diligence that we as Americans need to participate in.

As I contemplated what the landscape of the next four years would look like I couldnt help but wonder what the future holds for the Republican Party. A party that had its roots in ideals of lowering taxes, a free market capitalist society, gun rights and deregulation.

Those ideals may still be at the heart of the Republican Party, but President Donald J. Trump has brought in a new veneer of blatant sexism, racism and xenophobia wrapped in a veil of Christain and conservative ideology. From what Ive gathered over the last four years is that not all Republicans identify with Trumps form of Republicanism, but these few outliers are hard to find.

My fellow opinion writer, Jack Lewis, wrote about a group called the Never Trumpers who operate an organization called the Lincoln Project. On their website they state that they have a singular mission: To defeat Donald Trump and Trumpism.

The term Never Trumpers refers to the hard-right conservatives who oppose Donald Trump. A group who sees the support of Trump as leading to the debasement of their movement and eventually the destruction of the country.

The hope is that Trump supporters will awaken from their cult-like stasis of devotion to Trump, to create a new, reality-based conservative movement. A kind of post-Trump era of conservatism.

My hope is that the Lincoln Project can continue to grow and move the party back into the realm of reality. What will help this process is for prominent Republicans to stop pandering to the tin hat, conspiracy believing Trump supporters.

Their fear of losing power is so great that they will use and manipulate their base no matter the means necessary. The hypocrisy of it all is amazing. The party that shouts about following in Jesus footsteps more often than not, lies to its followers using fear-mongering that outsiders will come and destroy their country.

A Washington Post opinion columnist on politics both foregin and domestic, Jennifer Rubin, has one of the best responses on how to combat the Trump Republican party. She wrote an open letter to Republicans where she calls upon l Republican Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) to advocate for fact-based politics within the Republican party again.

In one segment of her open letter she writes, I bet you are more than a little relieved that President Trump lost. His erratic, outrageous conduct and refusal to operate in the real world no doubt caused you no small amount of embarrassment and pain.

Her directness in this letter tells us that there is still this confusing divide among Republicans. We saw this in the 2016 elections when prominent senators such as Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) gave Trump no support, but swiftly changed their narrative when his voter base agreed with Trump.

Even now we see Graham telling the president to not concede the presidential seat because of voter fraud conspiracies. What happened to the backbones of Republican Congressman? Do they feel so insecure in their ability to win on their own that they are willing to grovel at the feet of a man who doesnt believe or uphold any of their partys core values?

Rubins open letter goes on to call out the Trump based ideology that has overtaken the Republican party. Just as important, it is time to stop indulging the cranks, the conspiracy-mongers and the out-and-out liars in right-wing media and in your own caucus, Rubin wrote. Call out silly and baseless smears; insist on factual rigor at hearings.

An article by Bloomberg News discusses some of the drastic measures some Republicans are willing to take in order to reclaim the party. Some conservatives believe it isnt enough to just end Trumps tenure in office. Rather, they hold that all officials who enabled Trump must be ousted, that Trumpism must be disavowed and the party needs to be destroyed before it can be reconstructed.

Others would argue against such an extreme course of action. Seeing this path as leading to the loss of power within government. Their fear being that the strength they have in Congress being lost to Democrats who wish to enact a progressive agenda.

This fear seems ungrounded seeing as the Republicans have lost the majority of power before and come back to reclaim it. They lost the majority after George W. Bushs second term and would reclaim it once more in 2016. As the Bloomberg article put it, Parties can bounce back quickly, even after defeats that look epochal.

Would the first tactic work? Could Trumpism be extinguished or is it here for the long haul?

It seems unlikely that there will be a break from the Trumpian landscape of American society. An Atlantic article argues that there are already several contenders for the 2024 election coming out of the woodwork.

Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Josh Hawley of Missouri are aligned with several of Trumps ideologies. Cotton has an op-ed in the New York Times where he urged for the deployment of troops to Americas cities to dispel the riots against police brutality and inequality in the justice system.

Cotton seems to share Trumps radical ideas on the Republican party and plans to be an unwavering defender and future extender of the partys revolution into Trumpism. He has rejected the notion of systemic racism in the police force.. He has a strong opposition stance on immigration and would likely push for harsh immigration reform, the likes of which we have already seen within the Trump administration.

Hawley is another possible carrier of the Trumpism view of the Republian party. He holds a strong America First stance like Trump. Hawley has co-sponsored legislation with Cotton that would cut legal immigration in half that has gained him notoriety as a freshman senator.

The Atlantic article talks with Geoffrey Kabaservice, the director of political studies at the libertain Niskanen Center, who comments that many Republicans see these men as more sophisticated and effective versions of Trump. The question here is will Trumps base go along with a more sophisticated Trump?

Veteran Democratic pollster Stanley B. Greenberg, has been polling the Republican party since 2016 to see what comprises the Trump base. Hes seen that evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics and self-identifying Tea Party members make up about 67% of Trumps base.

A recent Pew study survey shows that the Republican partys composition of registered voters consists of 66% white Christains, 58% men, 57% whites without a college degree and 56% are older than 50. These numbers are large for the Republican party, but do not reflect that overall demographic of society.

A national poll conducted last year by the Public Religion Research Institute found a lot of correlations between those who are conservative and Trumpism ideology. Many believe in building Trumps border wall, imposing a strict Muslim travel ban and limiting legal immigration.

A large majority also endorsed the belief that discrimination aginst white people is as big a problem as that faced by minorities. They believe immigrants are invading America and will eventually replace American culture and ethnic backgrounds.

Roland Brownstein, the author of the Atlantic article mentioned earlier, comments that we have to look at the lasting effects Trumps presidency will have on American society. Most former presidents have played little to no role in the internal inner workings of the party after their tenure, but Trump looks to be shifting this narrative.

Brownstein commented that while working on his article many people he spoke with assumed that Trump would remain highly visible after his tenure in office. Trump may continue to build his base after this election loss to come back in 2024 for his second term.

We have to question not only what Trump will do after he is abdicated from the throne he seems to have sat himself upon, but what will his base do? We can only hope that the former Republican party can take back control from the Trumpers.

Everyday that prominent Republican Congressmen deny the outcome of the election shows us that they have become so entrenched in the Trump ideology that they lack the ability to accept reality. Like desperate children they will hold tight to their beliefs, faces morphed into a grimace, denying the truth in hopes of making their conspiracy theories reality.

Erin Holve can be reached at [emailprotected] and @Erin_Holve on Twitter.

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By Brian Stelter, CNN Business

The leaders of Fox News will never say this out loud, but they believe that their media empire is bigger than President Trump.

And they have billions of reasons to think so: Billions of dollars in revenue along with millions of loyal viewers.

Fox employees are confident that the Biden years will be prosperous for the network, and they're not losing sleep over the prospect of "Trump TV," according to numerous sources at the company.

But some observers think they should be concerned. It is possible that the outgoing President could damage the Fox brand and peel away disillusioned viewers if he launches a media company of his own. It is possible that the right-wing media map, long controlled by Fox, is about to become balkanized.

In the days since Fox and the other major networks called the election for President-elect Joe Biden, Trump has been stoking anger at Fox and promoting the much smaller and often more conspiratorial right-wing networks Newsmax and One America News.

Then again, he has also been watching Fox, tweeting quotes from favorable commentators, and seeking counsel from Fox's 9 p.m. host, Sean Hannity.

Here's the best way to interpret what's going on: Trump and Fox patriarch Rupert Murdoch have had a corporate marriage of convenience for five years. Trump is threatening to break up, but Fox has been through plenty of these rough patches before.

The question now is what Trump might do after he leaves office. A Trump-branded streaming service appears more likely than a "Trump TV" cable channel. But almost anything is possible: A radio show hosted by Trump, an expansion of the Trump campaign's current webcasts, or a licensing deal with a company like Newsmax.

What about a "Donald Trump Tonight" talk show on Fox? Is that out of the question?

The answer is no, at least not entirely. There are almost always pieces that could be moved. For example: Hannity's been at Fox for almost 25 years now. Maybe he could retire and let Trump take his place.

But at the moment, Trump is fuming about the network's coverage. So here is a viewers guide to the months ahead.

Trump was a Fox News viewer before he was a Fox News star. He learned a lot about the Republican party's base by watching the network and calling into the morning show "Fox & Friends" while still starring on NBC's "Celebrity Apprentice." He continued to call in to and appear on the network regularly while running for the Republican party's nomination in 2015 and 2016, even as he attacked Fox host Megyn Kelly and lambasted some of the network's commentators.

He has had the same carrot-and-stick approach ever since: Complimenting his Fox supporters -- rewarding them with interviews and Twitter plugs and visits to the White House -- while complaining about Fox's dissenters.

Murdoch used to be vocally critical of Trump's conduct. The media mogul famously wrote on Twitter in the summer of 2015, "When is Donald Trump going to stop embarrassing his friends, let alone the whole country?"

But Murdoch made peace with Trump as the Republican primary field narrowed and Trump won the nomination. He didn't believe Trump would beat Hillary Clinton in the general election, but when Trump did, Murdoch reached what one family friend later called a "detente."

The media marriage was visible for all to see on TV. Fox touted Trump and he touted the network. The Murdochs profited while Trump benefited from Fox's promotion and propaganda.

Earlier this year I wrote a book titled "Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth," based on information from confidential sources in and around Fox. I quoted a former "Fox & Friends" producer who said outsiders misunderstood the relationship.

"People think he's calling up 'Fox & Friends' and telling us what to say. Hell no. It's the opposite," the former producer said. "We tell him what to say."

This braggadocious view is backed up by a scroll through Trump's Twitter feed, which shows that he often starts his day by watching the "Friends" and repeating what they said on TV.

Trump's Fox News fixation was a major theme of his presidency. He hired people from Fox, fired people because of Fox, and gave most of his national TV interviews to Fox. Sometimes it was hard to tell where Trump ended and Fox began. But even with this close relationship, he was still prone to sending mean tweets whenever he didn't like something on the network. Fox executives usually just ignored his complaints. They felt that they, not the President, had the power.

It's important to recognize that Fox has a near-monopoly position in right-wing TV. The network's audience is extraordinarily loyal, as was demonstrated in late 2016 and early 2017 when three of Fox's biggest stars -- Megyn Kelly, Bill O'Reilly and Greta van Susteren -- all left in a nine-month period, and the ratings basically stayed the same.

For many in the TV business, the lesson was that, on Fox at least, everyone is replaceable. Does that lesson apply to Trump too?

In some ways he is Fox's biggest star of the past five years. But now his presidential show is ending.

Trump might think that Fox needs his star power, and on the margins it's true that Trump appearances and interviews are right-wing ratings boosters. But the network was No. 1 long before he became a politician.

As sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild wrote in her 2016 book "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right," about Tea Party supporters in Louisiana, "Fox News stands next to industry, state government, church, and the regular media as an extra pillar of political culture all its own."

"To some," she explained, "Fox is family."

It takes a lot more than a Trump tweet to convince people to abandon family.

Nevertheless, Trump might be trying to dissolve this media marriage.

In line with his past jabs at Fox's news coverage, he wrote on Thursday that "@FoxNews daytime ratings have completely collapsed. Weekend daytime even WORSE."

Fox's daytime ratings are looking somewhat soft this week, but that's not a surprise, since Biden's victory is interpreted as bad news by the Fox base.

The network is also feeling pressure from the far-right, from channels such as Newsmax, which are criticizing Fox for projecting Biden's win in Arizona and calling Biden the president-elect.

Newsmax's ratings have skyrocketed in recent days, but Fox is still heads and shoulders above all of its challengers.

Trump's tweet on Thursday continued: "Very sad to watch this happen, but they forgot what made them successful, what got them there. They forgot the Golden Goose. The biggest difference between the 2016 Election, and 2020, was @FoxNews!"

Trump leveled similar charges against Fox throughout the 2020 campaign.

But his assertion that he was Fox's "Golden Goose" doesn't add up. The network has been growing steadily for years, thanks to a loyal audience that distrusts most of the rest of the national media. Stars like Hannity encourage and worsen this alienation each day by attacking what he calls "fake" news.

Sources inside Fox predicted that Trump would snap back to normal and praise the network's opinion hosts in a day or two. Earlier this week, he posted numerous videos from both Fox and Newsmax's pro-Trump shows.

Axios reported on Thursday that "Trump has told friends he wants to start a digital media company to clobber Fox News."

A subscription streaming service would let him convert rallygoers into paying customers and compete with Fox at the same time.

A Fox insider heaped doubt on that idea, however, by pointing out that Trump is old-fashioned -- he is obsessed with big-screen television, not newfound streaming apps.

When I was working on my book, the Murdoch family friend told me of the relationship between Trump and Fox, "There was something in it for both of them. At the end of the day, business trumps ideology. Business trumps principle."

Whatever he decides to do, the coming months will go a long way toward answering a two-sided question: Does Fox need Trump more, or does Trump need Fox more?

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The Trump-Fox News relationship is coming to a head. Here's what might be coming next - WICZ