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One of our recurring questions here is the nature of crazy: Do people go crazy? Or were they always crazy, but just passing as normal?
Over at the UnPopulist, Tom Palmer catches up with alt-right conservative / brave intellectual dark web truth teller Jordan Peterson, who has made the journey from side-show curiosity to Putin apologist. Heres Palmer:
It turns out that there are people who believe that Putin was forced to invade Ukraine because Russia is a part of the West and therefore has a stake in its culture war whose Ground Zero is somehow Ukraine. That is the view that University of Toronto psychology professor and popular lecturer Jordan Peterson expressed in a recent 51-minute video monologue. In fact, he believes that Russias invasion has something to do with the controversies about gender and gender identity in the West.
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Peterson rose to fame because of his unsparing slams on wokeness and its crusade over gender identity, pronouns and so on. But in this monologue, he focuses his ire on the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court Justice Kentanji Brown Jackson. Peterson was particularly miffed that Brown dodged Tennessee Republican Senator Marsha Blackburns gotcha questionas Peterson himself puts itin which Brown was asked to provide a definition for the word woman. Jackson declined, noting that she was not a biologist. As far as Peterson is concerned, Jacksons refusal to answer Sen. Blackburns simple question is proof of a deranged, degenerate and insane West. . . .
Russia is a part of the West, he asserts, and Russians believe that they have the highest moral duty to oppose the degenerate ideas, philosophy, theology of the West. More strikingly, that belief, Peterson insists, is not wrong: And theres something about that, that is not wrong. And that is why the incursion of Russia into Ukraine is, more truly, a civil war in the West.
Now its all making sense. The nationalist-conservatives (a) love Putin and (b) are horny for civil war. Peterson has found a way to combine the two: The invasion of Ukraine is the new civil war. And the Russians are protecting their heritage and sovereignty?
I mean, in a way that all kind of scans, doesnt it? Especially when you understand that in this view, the Russians the Confederatesand thats why Peterson and some other conservatives are rooting for them.
Good times.
In Petersons case, I think the answer to our initial question has always been pretty obvious: The guy was crazy as a bag of cats from the get-go. Heres Palmer on the Peterson origin story:
Peterson has gained a huge internet following by sometimes sayingin very profound sounding tonesthings that seem pretty sensible, such as, If you want to change the world, you start with yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way. I dont know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you cant keep your room organized. That seems to me like reasonable advice to a young person. His books and his talks offer a lot more advice like that, such as pet a cat when you encounter one on the street. Im fond of cats so thats fine with mebut he lost me in his 12 Rules for Life book at step forward to take your place in the dominance hierarchy.
LPT: If you see a person in the public square who says some things that line up with your priors, but also seems maybe kind of crazy . . . theyre crazy. Or, as Neil McCauley (maybe) said, If theres any doubt, there is no doubt.
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John Ganz has some thoughts about the origins of what he calls the American Vlkisch.
The chapter of my book Im currently writing deals with the Ruby Ridge incident, where Randy Weaver, a survivalist, and his family, faced off against the federal government in a siege of his Idaho cabin. As you may remember, the result was tragedy: the Weaver clan killed a Federal marshal, and the feds killed Weavers wife and son. The stand off at Ruby Ridge was perhaps the key moment in the creation of the modern militia movement. But what interests me at the moment is what the Weavers believed and how they came to believe it. The Weavers were followers of a Christian Identity, which stipulates that White Anglo-Saxons are the true Israelites of the Bible and that those known as Jews today were actually Satans spawn. They thought the U.S. government was dominated by a Satanic conspiracy and were prepared to kill and die for their beliefs.
Ganz asks how the Weavers, a normal, Midwestern couple, got radicalized. His answer is that their story,
involves their getting deeper and deeper into apocalyptic and conspiratorial thought, but very roughly speaking Christian Identity, which was actually developed by American Nazis in the 1930s, easily plugged into the religious traditions the Weavers grew up in. It contained millennialism, the idea of an elect, Biblical prophecy, and it organized people into local congregations: it was not a far cry from evangelical, Reformed, and fundamentalist Protestantism they grew up with, so it did not appear all that alien. But it twisted one tenet of Calvinism: instead of believers thinking of themselves as metaphorical Israelites, a community of believers in covenant with God, it taught that they were the literal bloodline descendants of the tribes, which also were actually the Aryans of Europe, not the Semites of the Middle East. In short, it replaced the concept of community with that of race.
Brief aside: If any of that sounds familiar to you, heres a bit of background about Pennsylvanias Republican gubernatorial candidate, Doug Mastriano, from a piece in The Bulwark a while back:
Mastriano also has an increasingly familiar religious profile. He has described the Gulf War, in which he served in 1991, as a holy wara belief reflected in his bizarre 2002 graduate thesis, Nebuchadnezzars Sphinx. He has attended events of the Charismatic Christian dominionist movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. He shares anti-Muslim memes, hangs out with militia members to guard Confederate statues at Gettysburg, and constantly hits all the main themes of Christian nationalist discourse in his speeches and other activities. In one particularly tasteless moment, he announced his gubernatorial candidacy while wearing a tallit and blowing a shofarsymbols that Christian nationalists have appropriated from the Jewish tradition and use to declare apocalyptic spiritual war.
You dont have to be the worlds greatest detective to see whats going on here. Anyway . . .
Back to Ganz:
Many of the doctrines cooked up by the extreme right do similar variations on fundamental American myths. Theres a consistent effort to appropriate Americana. For instance, Posse Comitatus, which I wrote about recently, is related to Christian Identity teaching and plays on Old West themes of sheriffs and vigilantes; The Militia Movement tries to appropriate the language of the Constitution . . .
It occurred to me one thing that might help us to understand this phenomenon was George L. Mosses work, namely his book The Crisis of German Ideology: The Intellectual Origins of the Third Reich. Mosses argument is basically that Nazism didnt come out of nowhere, but that there was a fertile cultural context that dated back to the 19th century: the vlkisch movement. Vlkisch is a bit difficult to translate, on the one hand it can be as anodyne as popular and populist, but in this context it is redolent of blood-and-soil nationalism and mysticism. Vlkisch ideology had its roots in a romantic revolt against modernity: its adherents took a deep interest in the natural, going back to the land, in old Germanic folklore, mythology, and traditions. It often had a racial and anti-semitic component, opposing the earthy, practical German people to the abstract, alien Jew. The Nazis both sprang out of this subculture and took advantage of its penetration into the national imagination. In Mosses telling, Nazism was an ingenious combination of vlkisch anti-modernism and modern mass political techniques. . . .
One way to conceive of this far right Americana as a kind of American vlkism: an ideological imaginary that is a reaction to the modern situation but presents itself as rooted in the soil, in the countrys oldest traditions and lore.
Look, its not a straight line from the Vlkisch movement to traditionalists like Jordan Peterson and the Nat Cons. But you can see from one point to the other.
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- The West is sleepwalking into Trudeaus woke nightmare - The Telegraph - October 26th, 2024 [October 26th, 2024]
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- Controversial, revered and reviled commentator to speak in Tri-Cities - Yahoo! Voices - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
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- Highly defamatory and damaging: David Frum on Trudeaus targeting of Jordan Peterson and his suspiciously selective approach to foreign interference -... - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson calls for public apology from Trudeau over accusations about ties to Russia - Todayville.com - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson bringing We Who Wrestle With God Tour to Kelowna in 2025 - VernonNow - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
- What did Justin Trudeau say about Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson during election interference testimony? - MSN - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson returning to Canadian Tire Centre in 2025 - CTV News Ottawa - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson says he is considering legal action after Trudeau accused him of taking Russian money - Brantford Expositor - October 24th, 2024 [October 24th, 2024]
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- Justin Trudeau Testifies That Russia Funded Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson in Support of Their Anti-Vax Covid Claims | Video - Yahoo! Voices - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- Sessions | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O'Connor [DW+ Exclusive] - The Daily Wire - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson bringing We Who Wrestle With God Tour to Kelowna in 2025 - KamloopsBCNow - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson Rejects Canadian PMs Accusation of Taking Russian Money - The Morning News - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson denies Trudeaus claim that he is funded by Russia, considers legal action - True North - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson says he is considering legal action after Trudeau accused him of taking Russian money - Elliot Lake Standard - October 23rd, 2024 [October 23rd, 2024]
- What did Justin Trudeau say about Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson during election interference testimony? - indy100 - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson says he is considering legal action after Trudeau accused him of taking Russian money - National Post - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Justin Trudeau Says Under Oath That Russia Funds Tucker Carlson - Splinter - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson says he is considering legal action after Trudeau accused him of taking Russian money - MSN - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Trudeau accuses Jordan Peterson and Tucker Carlson of being funded by Russia - True North - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Trudeau claims under oath that Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson are funded by Russia - Todayville.com - October 18th, 2024 [October 18th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson Says Regulatory College Offered to Waive Legal Costs If He Resigns - AllSides - October 14th, 2024 [October 14th, 2024]
- Cathy Newman says she still gets death threats years after Jordan Peterson interview - The Independent - October 12th, 2024 [October 12th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson: my message to the Jews - Evening Standard - October 4th, 2024 [October 4th, 2024]
- More Than Anything Else, the Rally to Rescue the Republic Was Awkward - The Nation - October 4th, 2024 [October 4th, 2024]
- This Is Where You End Up When You Do Your Own Research - The Atlantic - October 4th, 2024 [October 4th, 2024]
- Coalition of the Weird Mobilizes for Trump - The Wall Street Journal - October 3rd, 2024 [October 3rd, 2024]
- Russell Brand and Jordan Peterson just managed to embarrass themselves even more with this move - INTO - October 3rd, 2024 [October 3rd, 2024]
- The Wests true enemy is clear. We must strike now before its too late - Yahoo News UK - October 3rd, 2024 [October 3rd, 2024]
- RFK Jr. and Jordan Peterson's D.C. roundtable shows why "alternative medicine" went full MAGA - Salon - September 28th, 2024 [September 28th, 2024]
- Jordan Peterson condemns trans-butchery of minor children as a crime against humanity - Todayville.com - September 28th, 2024 [September 28th, 2024]
- John Rustads Interview with Jordan Peterson Another Example of BC Conservatives Taking Aim at Indigenous Rights and Reconciliation - Union of British... - September 8th, 2024 [September 8th, 2024]
- John Rustad tells Jordan Peterson B.C. needs nuclear talk, end to school 'indoctrination' - Vancouver Sun - September 8th, 2024 [September 8th, 2024]
- Peter Carey: Jordan Peterson's forced 're-education' should worry millions of Canadians - National Post - September 8th, 2024 [September 8th, 2024]
- Heaven, Hell, & the Human Condition | Jack Symes - The Daily Wire - September 8th, 2024 [September 8th, 2024]
- Rustad tells Jordan Peterson B.C. needs nuclear talk, end to school indoctrination - Hamilton Spectator - September 8th, 2024 [September 8th, 2024]
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- Conrad Black: The Charter is dead Jordan Peterson's forced re-education proves it - National Post - August 22nd, 2024 [August 22nd, 2024]
- Letters: Canadians need to wake up to attacks on individual freedom - National Post - August 22nd, 2024 [August 22nd, 2024]
- Country music singer John Rich confronts Jordan Peterson on his faith crisis: 'What terrifies you?' - Fox News - August 20th, 2024 [August 20th, 2024]
- The Role Of The Holy Spirit: Distinguishing Between Your Will And Gods Will - The Daily Wire - August 20th, 2024 [August 20th, 2024]
- Rob Shaw: Will Rustad's appearance on Jordan Peterson's podcast boost or backfire? - Business in Vancouver - August 20th, 2024 [August 20th, 2024]
- The War on Children & the Language of Deception | Logan Lancing - The Daily Wire - August 20th, 2024 [August 20th, 2024]
- Opinion: The (re)education of Jordan Peterson - The Globe and Mail - August 16th, 2024 [August 16th, 2024]