What Buttigieg said about Harris vs. Pence, the postal service and more – IndyStar
IndyStar journalists Chris Sikich and Robert Scheer talk about their experience covering Pete Buttigieg's campaign, from Iowa to the Carolinas. Indianapolis Star
Pete Buttigieg, who has nabbed a primetime speaking spot Thursday at the Democratic National Convention, chatted with IndyStar this week about Kamala Harris' matchup against Mike Pence, President Donald Trump's handling of the U.S. Postal Serviceand what his own future might look like in a Biden administration.
Here is the conversation with the former South Bend mayor and onetime presidential candidate, edited lightly for brevity.
Question: Why have you been campaigning so hard for Joe Biden?
Answer: Because so much is on the line. It's common in election years to say this is the most important election ever, but I don't think many people disagree this is the most important election of our lifetime. The nation, our democracy, is on the ballot. The country is in a national emergency. The credibility of our country is collapsing. The economy is in the worst shape its been in since the early 20th century. I never thought this was possible when I was running for president, but the stakes have actually gone up compared to the beginning of this year and I think anyone who cares where we are heading has to be as involved as much as possible in making sure this election goes well.
Q: How do you think vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris will fare against Mike Pence?
A: I think it's a great choice on Joe Biden's part. Of course her nomination is historic, but she's also somebody who speaks with great intelligence and precision as well as empathy. I think that's going to make her a very compelling contrast to Vice President Pence, who has come on board with an administration that is antithetical to every conservative value as well as every progressive value. She is somebody who is quite gifted when it comes to getting to the core of an issue. She has a talent for uncovering the central questions that are at stake, as you can see in the work she has done on Senate committees. That will serve her well in debating Vice President Pence, but I also just think the contrast.She understands from personal experiencewhat's at stake in this becoming a country where gender equality is real, where racial equity is achieved, where Black lives matter. She will be able to speak to that in a moment where that is exactly what the country is looking for.
Q: How should Democrats respond to President Trumps handling of the U.S. Postal Service?
A: Well, like many other things, the Postal Service should be completely free of political interference, and so the president's confession last week that he wantsit to be harder to vote by mail is a stunning admission of why he's motivated to undermine the Postal Service.One of the basic yardsticks of human civilization is the ability to deliver mail, and Americans ought to be able to do that at all times. And yet it's being actively undermined for political reasons. This is something you don't have to be a Democrat to understand. Asa matter of fact, seniors, rural votersand veterans are all among those who will disproportionately suffer from the attempts to undermine the Postal Service.
Q: Why do you think Donald Trump remains so popular in many parts of Indiana?
A: Well, first I think some perspective would be helpful. This is an exceptionally unpopular president by historical standards, but I do think there are many in Indiana who have grown up Republican and vote Republican out of habit. Even when you have a president who attacks Republican values too, it's a hard habit to break.If there was ever a year people should reconsider old partisan habits, it's this year. The way the president has behaved is a direct frontal attack not only on liberal values but on conservative values, too.
Q: What can Democrats do to break through in Indiana, especially in statewide races?
A: I've always believed there's no such thing as a permanently red state. We've seen Indiana go blue in electingJoe Donnelly and in voting for Barack Obama. I think we can do it again. I think it helps that we have really compelling candidates. I noted Dr. Myers, who is running for governor, put out areally compelling videotodayabout his experiences with race and medicine and leadership. I think the most important thing is to ensure that our stories are reaching as many Hoosiers as possible and I'll do my part to try to amplify those stories because they are so important.
Q: What was your biggest lesson from your own campaign for president?
A: The biggest thing that struck me was that Americans are more open to moving across party lines than you would ever guess by looking at the behavior of politicians in Washington. Time and time again, I'd be campaigning in rural areas and conservative areas on a progressive message that was also inclusive and I would see again and again Republicans talk about how enthusiastic they were to support this campaign without ever having to pretend to be something I was not. That really tells you we are in a moment that could change and realign some of this polarization that has gotten to be so deep, especially since we have a Republican president who does not behave according to any American values, conservative or liberal. That creates an historic opportunity to cut through some of these partisan divides. It's something that I felt as a candidate before, and it's something that I feel now as I look at what's happening around the country heading into November.
Q: I heard Joe Biden say you'd have a job in his administration if you wanted one. Would you seek a Cabinet post in a Biden/Harris administration?
A: Well, first we have to make sure there is a Biden/Harris administration, but of course I would love the chance to return to public service if that's what a new president decides and it makes sense. Right now, I'm laser-focused on doing my part to make sure that we have that change in administrations.
Q:What are you looking forward to at the convention?
A: Well, I'm looking forward to the innovation first of all. You know, we've been forced into this situation by a terrible emergency, but I think we all know that conventions were maybe ready for some changes.I'll be interested to see how we find new ways to connect. Last night I did an event with the Indiana delegation where the state party arranged a virtual dance party. So on the social side as well as the political side, I'm excited to see that. The most important thing is the show of unity. We're not pretending to agree on everything in our party, but we're going to deliverthe message that progressives and moderates and independents and even some Republicans are welcome in this effort to deliver this change we need before it's too late.
Q: What was a virtual dance party like?
A: It was interesting. You were able to see everyone's different styles, one little Zoom square at a time. It was fun.
Call IndyStar reporter Chris Sikich at 317-444-6036. Follow him on Twitter: @ChrisSikich.
Read or Share this story: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/17/q-a-buttigieg-trumps-handling-usps-kamala-harris-mike-pence/5599506002/
Excerpt from:
What Buttigieg said about Harris vs. Pence, the postal service and more - IndyStar
- Exclusive: Mike Pence, Conan OBrien, Helena Bonham Carter, George R. R. Martin to speak at the Union - The Oxford Student - October 7th, 2025 [October 7th, 2025]
- Mike Pence and John Bolton say Americas future lies with its citizens - Harvard Kennedy School - October 4th, 2025 [October 4th, 2025]
- Former Vice President Mike Pence voiced support for Harvard researchers caught up in the White Houses antisemitism investigations at a Harvard forum... - October 2nd, 2025 [October 2nd, 2025]
- What Trump's First VP Mike Pence Has Been Up To Since Being Iced Out Of His Inner Circle - thelist.com - September 28th, 2025 [September 28th, 2025]
- Trump judicial pick who faced conservative backlash gets boost from Mike Pence group - Washington Examiner - September 25th, 2025 [September 25th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says Trump Is 'Right' When He Says Ukraine Can Fight And Win Back Territory From Russia - Benzinga - September 25th, 2025 [September 25th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence Heads To Academia With Faculty Role At George Mason University - Benzinga - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in the Spring - WJLA - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Mike Pence Arrives At Capitol Before Trump Inauguration Made A Post (CIs2MbvVKU) - folha do es - September 21st, 2025 [September 21st, 2025]
- Today, Vice President Mike Pence surprised guests at the Bush Center and sat down for a special taping of The Strategerist podcast before a live... - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to become George Mason University professor - WUSA9 - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence: China is the greatest economic and strategic threat facing the U.S. - CNBC - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence joins George Mason University faculty - DC News Now - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in the Spring - WSET - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence announces he will be teaching at George Mason University in Virginia - weareiowa.com - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Video Mike Pence to teach politics at George Mason University in 2026 - ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence joins George Mason University faculty - The Business Journals - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence: "We gotta be careful about putting America on trial whenever we see evil overtake the heart of any individual. In this case, absent... - September 19th, 2025 [September 19th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Joins George Mason University as Distinguished Professor - National Review - September 17th, 2025 [September 17th, 2025]
- FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: Five years on, the Abraham Accords still point the way to peace - Fox News - September 15th, 2025 [September 15th, 2025]
- Mike Pence to speak at UNCW this fall - Port City Daily - August 29th, 2025 [August 29th, 2025]
- Vice President Mike Pence to Keynote UNCWs Dare to Learn Lecture - University of North Carolina Wilmington - August 27th, 2025 [August 27th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Blames Trump Tariffs As John Deere Cuts 238 Jobs In Iowa: 'Time To Get Back To Free Trade With Free Nations' - Benzinga - August 26th, 2025 [August 26th, 2025]
- Mike Pence on Trumps handling of Putin, tariffs - NewsNation - August 22nd, 2025 [August 22nd, 2025]
- Former VP Mike Pence tells The Hill on NewsNation Putin doesnt want peace - The Hill - August 22nd, 2025 [August 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Calls For 'Free Trade With Free Nations' And Says Tariffs Ultimately Hurt U.S. Businesses And Shoppers - Yahoo Finance - August 14th, 2025 [August 14th, 2025]
- Mike Pence-Backed Group Calls for End to Gambling Loss Tax Deductions - newsnet5.com - August 12th, 2025 [August 12th, 2025]
- US companies and consumers paying the cost of Trumps tariffs - Mike Pence - sentinelassam.com - August 12th, 2025 [August 12th, 2025]
- Eric Metaxas Guest John Zmirak: Mike Pence, Lindsey Graham, John McCain Were Part of Obama Coup Claimed by Gabbard - People For the American Way - August 9th, 2025 [August 9th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says 'Time Has Come' to Share Epstein Files, Adding 'Anyone' Associated with the 'Despicable Man' Deserves Scrutiny - AOL.com - July 22nd, 2025 [July 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Joins Calls To Release Epstein Files: The Time Has Come - Yahoo Home - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Extended Interview: Mike Pence on Trump tariffs, Jeffrey Epstein and more - CBS News - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence calls for the release of the Epstein files - AOL.com - July 20th, 2025 [July 20th, 2025]
- Mike Pence urges Trump to 'release all the files' on Jeffrey Epstein - USA Today - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Trumps former Vice President Mike Pence pushes for release of the Epstein files: The time has come - The Independent - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence calls for the release of the Epstein files: 'I've always believed in transparency' - ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Trumps former Vice President Mike Pence pushes for release of the Epstein files: The time has come - Yahoo - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence says Trump "starting to realize Putin doesn't want peace" - CBS News - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence has a message for Donald Trump about Jeffrey Epstein: 'Release all the files' - South Bend Tribune - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence makes stunning demand of Trump admin: The time has come - NJ.com - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence has a message for Donald Trump about Jeffrey Epstein: 'Release all the files' - Yahoo - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence says the time has come for Trump to release the Epstein files - Global News - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says It Was Tariffs On Tea That Led To The American Revolution, Reiterates Only Congress Can Impose Such Levies - Benzinga - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Trumps former Vice President Mike Pence pushes for release of the Epstein files: The time has come - MSN - July 18th, 2025 [July 18th, 2025]
- Firing Line with Margaret Hoover kicks off eighth season on PBS with Mike Pence - PR Newswire - July 12th, 2025 [July 12th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says Trump's Tariff Escalations With US Allies Are Like 'Dismissing Your Front Line In A Football Game' - Benzinga - July 12th, 2025 [July 12th, 2025]
- 'Jeopardizes All Of It': Ex-Mike Pence Aide Knocks Trump Over These 'Confusing' Moves - HuffPost - July 10th, 2025 [July 10th, 2025]
- JD Vance Wonders If Other VPs Had This Much Excitement Social Media Says, Ask Mike Pence - Yahoo News Singapore - June 29th, 2025 [June 29th, 2025]
- "My Respect For VP Pence Continues To Grow": People Are Applauding Mike Pence For Writing A Letter To A January 6 Rioter Who Refused Trump's... - June 28th, 2025 [June 28th, 2025]
- 'Shows your commitment to rule of law': Trump's ex-VP Mike Pence applauds woman who refused pardon for Ja - Times of India - June 28th, 2025 [June 28th, 2025]
- People Can't Believe They Actually Agree With Mike Pence After He Wrote A Letter To A Jan 6 Rioter - BuzzFeed - June 28th, 2025 [June 28th, 2025]
- Mike Pence writes letter to Jan 6 rioter praising her for refusing to take Trumps pardon - MSN - June 28th, 2025 [June 28th, 2025]
- Mike Pence reveals whether he plans to run in 2028 - Yahoo - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Former Vice President Mike Pence parts ways with Trump on tariff policy - WRAL.com - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence criticizes Trump on tariffs and key foreign policy issues as he watches from afar - NBC News - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence reveals whether he plans to run in 2028 - The Independent - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence warns of risk of Trump accepting a plane from nation linked to Hamas - The Independent - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence ramps up Trump disapproval with 13 words slamming overseas trip - The Mirror US - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Would former VP Mike Pence ever run for office again? Here's what he said - IndyStar - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Sounds Terror Alert on Trumps Free Plane - The Daily Beast - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- How Mike Pence says he came to the conclusion he should part ways with Trump - MSN - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence criticizes Trump on tariffs and key foreign policy issues as he watches from afar - Straight Arrow News - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Trump's Middle East Trip Draws Rare Praise From Mike Pence As 'Very Successful' For US Economy Amid 'Historic' Boeing Deal: 'That'll Really Support... - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence says Trump tariffs were the largest peacetime tax hike in U.S. history - MSN - May 22nd, 2025 [May 22nd, 2025]
- Mike Pence Says This Trump Policy Could Kill The American Dream - HuffPost - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence receives award for defending democracy from Trump without mentioning his name - MSN - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Former Vice President Mike Pence urges President Trump and congressional Republicans not to raise taxes on wealthy Americans - Fox News - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence rebukes Trump over tariffs and wavering support for Ukraine - The Guardian - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Finally Goes Scorched Earth on Trump and His Agenda - The Daily Beast - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Former Vice President Mike Pence honored by Kennedy family in receiving the JFK 'Profile in Courage Award' - Fox News - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence: Keeping toys affordable is part of the American dream - CNN - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence eloquently carves up Trump and MAGA with the precision of a surgeon - NJ.com - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Is Too Scared to Mention Trump While Picking Up Courage Award - The Daily Beast - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence speaks out about January 6 Capitol attacks while receiving the JFK Profile in Courage Award - Fast Company - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- EDITORIAL | Profile in Courage: Mike Pence stood tall in defense of the Constitution - Texarkana Gazette - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence issues damning 7-word assessment as he turns on Trump in bombshell interview - Irish Star - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Pushes Back on Trump's Assertion That Young Girls Only Need '2 or 3' Dolls: 'Really Part of the American Dream' - Latin Times - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- 'America's best days yet to come...,' Mike Pence quotes JFK as he received Profile in Courage Award - The Economic Times - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Mike Pence Rejects Trumps Tariffs: They Will Hurt the Economy and Consumers - La Voce di New York - May 11th, 2025 [May 11th, 2025]
- Opinion | Mike Pence: What the 47th President Can Learn From the 45th - WSJ - April 30th, 2025 [April 30th, 2025]