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Mary Barker: Our economic discourse tends to suffer from non sequiturs

Capitalism and socialism are two possible grand organizing principles that used to compete for our loyalties. Few engage in debates about them today, however. At this level of analysis, the so-called socialist economies of Europe are just like ours. Theyre capitalist-mixed economies that simply have a stronger safety net than we do. In the most socialist of the bunch Sweden Ikea is privately owned. It was founded by former farm boy Ingvar Kamprad, who is now one of the richest men in the world.

Michael De Groote, Deseret News

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Imagine you work in a restaurant. Your manager sets the schedule and assigns various cleanup tasks at the end of the day. But he repeatedly gives his friends the most lucrative shifts, the easiest chores, and the weekends and holidays free. So you and your other co-workers decide to speak up. Youd prefer a system of equal rotation. Surprisingly, however, when you voice your concerns, youre met with a barrage of accusations that you are anti-business, envious of others, and that this is class warfare. If you wanted to be manager, you shouldve gone to school. Capitalism, you are told, is better than socialism and you are lucky to live in the land of the free.

This odd situation is similar to one we often face today. Our economic discourse tends to suffers from non sequiturs. Two common ones stem from confusing the level of analysis in a conversation and mistaking arguments about policies with ones about people.

Capitalism and socialism are two possible grand organizing principles that used to compete for our loyalties. Few engage in debates about them today, however. At this level of analysis, the so-called socialist economies of Europe are just like ours. Theyre capitalist-mixed economies that simply have a stronger safety net than we do. In the most socialist of the bunch Sweden Ikea is privately owned. It was founded by former farm boy Ingvar Kamprad, who is now one of the richest men in the world.

Within capitalism, however, there are myriad intermediate structures, policies, rules and procedures that govern and shape economic interactions. We have classical economic theories and Keynesian ones. We have supply-side economics and middle-out. We have particular tax rates, industry regulations, government programs, and eligibility rules, and we change them all the time. To criticize some of these intermediate structures or policies, however, is not to attack capitalism. To build a case for change at this level is not to undermine business as a meaningful, worthwhile and socially beneficial activity any more than to suggest a change in the household distribution of chores is to attack the institution of the family. In fact, it may serve to strengthen it.

We were capitalist, for example, when the highest marginal tax rate was 91 percent (under Eisenhower); when it was 77 percent (Nixon), and 35 to 39.6 percent (Obama). Eisenhower was no commie and neither is Obama. We were capitalist before Glass-Steagall, during Glass-Steagall, and after its repeal.

When one highlights a possible inconsistency, or perhaps some injustices, in this intermediate realm and encounters rejoinders about the superiority of capitalism over socialism or the benefits that business brings, its baffling. The latter were never called into doubt by the former. One is clueless as to where the conversation got derailed and how to fix the track and go forward. I mean, if you ask a bookseller the price of a book and he answers that its snowing in Boston, what do you say next?

The same is true when one points out the ways in which structures and policies disadvantage some groups, like the poor. Notice that such statements say nothing about the poor or rich as people. Instead they say something about the system. Yet typical responses to such statements focus on the people. They often deride the poor and defend the rich (who were not being attacked in the first place).

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Mary Barker: Our economic discourse tends to suffer from non sequiturs

Mary Barker: Our economic discourse tends to suffers from non sequiturs

Capitalism and socialism are two possible grand organizing principles that used to compete for our loyalties. Few engage in debates about them today, however. At this level of analysis, the so-called socialist economies of Europe are just like ours. Theyre capitalist-mixed economies that simply have a stronger safety net than we do. In the most socialist of the bunch Sweden Ikea is privately owned. It was founded by former farm boy Ingvar Kamprad, who is now one of the richest men in the world.

Michael De Groote, Deseret News

Enlarge photo

Imagine you work in a restaurant. Your manager sets the schedule and assigns various cleanup tasks at the end of the day. But he repeatedly gives his friends the most lucrative shifts, the easiest chores, and the weekends and holidays free. So you and your other co-workers decide to speak up. Youd prefer a system of equal rotation. Surprisingly, however, when you voice your concerns, youre met with a barrage of accusations that you are anti-business, envious of others, and that this is class warfare. If you wanted to be manager, you shouldve gone to school. Capitalism, you are told, is better than socialism and you are lucky to live in the land of the free.

This odd situation is similar to one we often face today. Our economic discourse tends to suffers from non sequiturs. Two common ones stem from confusing the level of analysis in a conversation and mistaking arguments about policies with ones about people.

Capitalism and socialism are two possible grand organizing principles that used to compete for our loyalties. Few engage in debates about them today, however. At this level of analysis, the so-called socialist economies of Europe are just like ours. Theyre capitalist-mixed economies that simply have a stronger safety net than we do. In the most socialist of the bunch Sweden Ikea is privately owned. It was founded by former farm boy Ingvar Kamprad, who is now one of the richest men in the world.

Within capitalism, however, there are myriad intermediate structures, policies, rules and procedures that govern and shape economic interactions. We have classical economic theories and Keynesian ones. We have supply-side economics and middle-out. We have particular tax rates, industry regulations, government programs, and eligibility rules, and we change them all the time. To criticize some of these intermediate structures or policies, however, is not to attack capitalism. To build a case for change at this level is not to undermine business as a meaningful, worthwhile and socially beneficial activity any more than to suggest a change in the household distribution of chores is to attack the institution of the family. In fact, it may serve to strengthen it.

We were capitalist, for example, when the highest marginal tax rate was 91 percent (under Eisenhower); when it was 77 percent (Nixon), and 35 to 39.6 percent (Obama). Eisenhower was no commie and neither is Obama. We were capitalist before Glass-Steagall, during Glass-Steagall, and after its repeal.

When one highlights a possible inconsistency, or perhaps some injustices, in this intermediate realm and encounters rejoinders about the superiority of capitalism over socialism or the benefits that business brings, its baffling. The latter were never called into doubt by the former. One is clueless as to where the conversation got derailed and how to fix the track and go forward. I mean, if you ask a bookseller the price of a book and he answers that its snowing in Boston, what do you say next?

The same is true when one points out the ways in which structures and policies disadvantage some groups, like the poor. Notice that such statements say nothing about the poor or rich as people. Instead they say something about the system. Yet typical responses to such statements focus on the people. They often deride the poor and defend the rich (who were not being attacked in the first place).

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Mixed Economic System

Many of todays democracies operate under a mixed economic system, which combines aspects of capitalism and socialism. A mixed economy is designed to drive economic activity through capitalist ventures, while money is collected via taxation to maintain a nations infrastructure and offer public services, such as primary education, social welfare policies and health insurance.

The belief is that government intervention can ensure fair market competition, and humane labor standards, and offer economic safety nets for businesses and individuals, such as subsidies and minimum wage laws. Capitalism in its purest form has peaks and valleys, which can lead to financial crises, such as mass unemployment and economic depressions. Governments in mixed economies introduce fiscal or monetary policies that are intended to stimulate economic activity during economic downturns. Some examples include government work programs, quantitative easing and corporate bailouts.

Essentially, mixed economies encourage the private sector to seek profits, but monitor profit levels, and redistribute wealth in order to promote social objectives that maintain an agreeable standard of living for its citizens.

Pure capitalism dictates that the law of supply and demand sets the prices for goods and services. Pure Socialism fixes the prices through central planning. A standard mixed economy, however, allows for prices in some sectors to fluctuate with supply and demand, while it fixes prices in sectors such as energy.

The term Mixed Economy has been applied to a variety of nations with a hybrid system of socialist and capitalist policies. The Mixed Economy label has been applied to Western Democracies such as the United States, Canada and various Western European nations, as well as Nordic Social Democracies, which have high taxation and greater wealth redistribution for social aims; even a Communist nation like Cuba is considered to have a mixed economy by some economists.

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